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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So, Fallon has done as he was told by 'advisers' and fallen on his sword. How long will May continue her impersonation of a Prime Minister before she too is similarly advised? What a shabby, sleazy lot these tories are! Some things never change! Tom
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The evil that is the tory party and their disgusting supporters always like to proclaim this in some kind of perverse justification for their wealth and/or position in the social scale, as if to suggest that they achieved their place in the social order through hard graft and commitment, when in...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I admire your confidence there 'Danidl' but I'm not sure I can share it. The whole 'Brexit' fiasco seems to be disintegrating day by day and while the newly-evolved situation in NI has always seemed fairly predictable, although exacerbated by the 'cosying-up' relationship between a desperate UK...
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Northern Ireland is likely to become a major sticking point in any trade agreement with the EU and the known problems with that have just been further compounded by the breakdown of talks between the political parties in that region. 'The Independent' covers it like this...
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This critique, by 'The Canary', of the 'Daily Mail's journalistic analysis of the 'Westminster sex scandal', as penned by someone called Sarah Vine who seems to be of the same mould as Katie Hopkins, amply describes the shameful depths to which the tory media will stoop...
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Bloomberg's take on some British matters: u-k-stalling-on-new-brexit-talks-as-clock-ticks-down-to-summit Tom
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One of many great mysteries of our time: Tom
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Further to my last, how are we going to police our shores against contraband goods and people smugglers delivering their cargoes with a naval fleet that relies on make-do and mend craft? Is there some secret plan to privatise the RN or will G4S simply expand their operations in that direction...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yeah, let's get our sovereignty back, (that's what they said, isn't it?) and we can dictate trade just as in the old days when seafarers like Kidd, Avery, Morgan and others used the seven seas to ply their 'trade'. Well.......we could do, except we don't make (or purchase) reliable ships any...
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Possibly the most appropriate spelling mistake ever? Tom
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't know anyone who expects the state to provide totally and take responsibility but perhaps you do. In your little bubble, you probably believe the rubbish you read in the tory propaganda rags and hear from the BBC and SKY, because that is exactly the kind of exaggerated lie they have been...
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This thread has deviated quite considerably from the original subject matter and the current material being posted might possibly merit a thread of its own. Can we get back to the original matter of 'Brexit' facts which obviously requires the consistent slagging-off of tory inbreds from the...
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You're still soldiering - you really need to get out of that mindset! Tom
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nick Cohen, writing in 'The Guardian', has produced a damning article about the self-aggrandising PM, Theresa May. It was already widely known that May was incompetent and unfit for any ministerial office after the shambles she made of her time as Home Secretary but Cohen illustrates further...
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is the reality of tories wielding power: tory-council-leader-gives-himself-pay-rise-after-declaring-he-is-running-a- multi-million-pound-empire Tom
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is that an explanation of why the study findings cannot be in the public domain.........or are you simply trying (and failing) to defend the indefensible? Tom
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why are opposition MPs and the public at large not demanding to see the results of this exercise? 'Open Britain' sees it like this: Awkward... the Tories have published a list of 58 sectors where they have carried out an assessment of the impact of Brexit but are not prepared to publish the...
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This seems like an opportune moment to remind ourselves what tories are all about: And this was tory electioneering material just over half a century ago - nothing has really changed in that regard! This is pertinent as it describes my attitude to those less fortunate, something alien to...
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Membership of the EU has never been at the heart of the UK's decline as a productive, industrial powerhouse over the last half century. The tory party and their supporters are wholly responsible for that. Capitalism works but only for some. Sadly, in the minds of the vast, vast majority of...
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm delighted to hear of your nomination 'flecc' and I'm sure it is well-merited. Like you 'flecc', were such an accolade ever to come my way, I too would politely refuse for the same reasons as expressed by the late Bob Hoskins in this infographic about his feelings towards Tony B-liar, a...