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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is it not the case that both the UK and Ireland have enjoyed numerous benefits over the last 44 years? Perhaps you weren't around in the 1960s and early 1970s because if you were, your memory isn't good. Tom
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is a theme in your posts, particularly your more recent ones. The theme to which I refer is that you seem blinkered and have lost sight of the fact that it is entirely within the gift of the UK government to secure ongoing rights for British people living in the 27 sovereign states of the...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here is just one area of reality - a direct consequence of 'Brexit'. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/18/retired-britons-eu-return-campaigners-pensioners-spain-healthcare?CMP=share_btn_tw The 'Brexidiots' must be very proud! Tom
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

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  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Can't you put forward a position 'flecc' without the need to bring up facts? You know it'll just confuse the 'leavers'. After all, this thread is about 'Brexit' - nothing else, just as it says in the title......oh, hang on! Tom
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Try 'realistic' as the tories are driving the UK into the lead position in a race to the bottom but you probably can't see that. Tom
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    While the 'leavers' are desperately trying to find the odd crumb of comfort from their tory idols' disintegrating post-'Brexit' scenario, the selfsame people in parliament are continuing with their attacks on the poor, the disabled and the rest of the decent members of society who must pay taxes...
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh dear! I was searching for a website which would have all the answers to my questions and thought I had finally found the right place......... .........looks like the only alternative is to ask 'Woosh' then as he has an uncanny ability to separate fact from opinion......well, that's what...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    In the USA, Trump has been strongly advised by a bunch of their top economists that immigration is essential to America. The last paragraph is strangely enlightening: economists-immigrants-economy-trump Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So where do you obtain your information? Do you perhaps have a daily fact list transmitted to you from your home planet that you and only you can access? If you know there are sources of credible information about 'Brexit', don't you think it is incumbent upon you to furnish Downing St and the...
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's an attempt at humour.....right? Are you so inured to the lies of newspaper headlines and editorials as well as the lies from politicians and economic pundits that you can no longer distinguish between rhetoric and reality? I actually gave you credit for showing a little sense...
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    News Thump gives us this today: uk-denies-residency-to-british-born-children-of-greek-german-couple Tom
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Do you believe what your government tells you about the financial state of the nation? Are there better things the UK could be doing with taxes paid by those people who actually pay them? This guy tells a different story to those members of 'the best club in London': Tom
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Exactly! Freedom of speech or freedom of expression is only when it suits you. Every item I have appended to this thread, humorous ones excepted, has been entirely relevant to the main thrust of the topic. That you cannot accept that, prompted me to say that 'there are none so blind as those...
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you now saying that the majority of those who voted for 'Brexit' expressly for racist reasons - no more foreigners here - were conned? The thickos knew nothing of international economics, trade deals or anything else but they were presented with an opportunity to stop foreigners being...
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Had you forgotten that you wanted to curtail my freedom of speech here: The topic necessarily requires comment on the people responsible for the passage of 'Brexit' so I have never really been off topic. You need to make up your mind about whether you do or do not accept freedom of speech, or...
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You really are in denial aren't you! You seem resolutely determined to see no connection between the far-right fascists running this country in the absence of a strong opposition, the right wing media bombarding the British public with propaganda and the fact that these are the people leading...
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Standard troll operating procedure from the nuisance and true to form - I sincerely admire your patience OG. Tom
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There are none so blind as those who will not see. Tom
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Mrs May's close friends and allies, the Zionists committing atrocities in the middle-east, continue to do so with zero condemnation from the British government. Neither do they suffer any criticism from the tory media. The BBC is a prime example and had that organisation been around a couple...