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Can you rephrase it !

Lidl and Aldi purchases ? I am NOT a customer of these shops and never have been. Mainly because I have never seen one wherever I have lived and when I have occasionally (once in four years) been in they have been low quality. Whilst I would not shop there for my bike accessories on a regular...

Wales, the real one (UK)

I assume you are an american or just some obnoxious human, see my SIGNATURE "Autistic and proud " do you have a problem with Autistic disabled people you appear to ?

I haven't driven a Bugatti Veyron to know it would be no good for me wither and have ridden FRONT and REAR hubs and they are crap compared to my mid, so don't assume because you will always either be wrong or sound stupid assuming what others do without actual facts. I said before here, you or...

1st thing I would have done is clean all contacts

Can you not go to a proper local bike shop

MID drive all t5he way just google MID drive or hub drive to see how many IN THE KNOW will say it beats hub hans down

The Dealer Perspective "Customers who come in asking for mid-drives are usually experienced bicyclists who want an e-mountain bike or performance commuter," said Alex Dunn, general manager of Seattle E-Bike. "If they are asking about good warranties, light weight, serviceability, then we...

Any who state otherwise have no realistic knowledge of the drives........................ The single largest advantage that mid-motors have over hub motors is their gear ratio. They allow the rider to power the rear wheel via the same chain and gear set as the pedals, which means that a low...

A difference riders can’t see, but will experience on a long ride – especially on hills – is that a bike with a mid-drive motor works synergistically with the bike’s gears for higher efficiency, which translates into longer riding range per charge. Like a car’s engine, electric motors like to...

POST the prices and site, post here the comparison now. Show like for like

Then you have never ridden one, Ill take you OFF road you ride a hub Ill ride mid drive

LOL I do laugh at people's assumptions, never assume you are always wrong ROFL

What amazes me is the assumption that £600 is a lot, think about it You pay £600 Of that take off sellers (shop) commission, distribution costs, manufacturing costs, and you are left with a bike who's materials are worth about £150-200, so CHEAP plastic, low value metal, rim brakes, and worst...

Cheap means just that cheap Chinese unreliable, good luck I would personally not touch one but look at Halfords PRE owned...

£500-600 good luck, the battery can cost that Also avoid HUB drives like Woosh where possible, remember they have NO gears attached, the motor simply speeds up and slows down, with mid drives you can still change the bikes gears as you do when riding, the motor does all the work where as MID...

Unless like on a car the indicators are WIDE apart some small flashing light on the back will look like just that a small flashing light not left/right with not enough space to separate it so pointless

Are you REALLY that naive ? https://support.kryptonitelock.com/hc/en-us/articles/231014107-How-much-should-I-spend-on-my-bike-lock- "Kryptonite suggests that you consider spending 10% of the total cost of your bike towards security". "What's your opinion on how much to spend on beating...

Don't people remember the rule, spand 10% the value of the bike on a loock Better still TWO locks per bike