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if i had the money id get one of those ;)

https://www.frey.bike/

look at it like this no matter what you spend if plod gets hold of it you will need to provide insurance to get it back. if you got the haibike thats still cheaper than 2 bike ahead wheels and a dongle that can be removed so it can be made road legal again. i have a badass dongle that slides...

https://www.trefecta-rdr.com/order-trefecta-rdr/ that will get you a 4000w motor if you get the custom version and that will kick the bafangs ass but at a heavy price.

https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/bike-ahead-biturbo-e-29-cl-disc-tubeless-20-21-mtb-rear-wheel/139307186/p?utm_source=google_products&utm_medium=merchant&id_producte=17605853&country=uk&gclid=Cj0KCQiAw8OeBhCeARIsAGxWtUyu-D9KJObDtRObAttHtdRGmNrcGq5xk0-YHg-Ne64nSGBMIK2-lzMaAtULEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw...

https://www.m1-sporttechnik.de/en/das-spitzing-evolution-2/das-spitzing-evolution-r-pedelec-2/

its in 20% /5 bars but you need to charge the batt a few times to get the best capacity out of it from new. if you get a kiox display then you can also have the app on ur phone and record ride data and link it to stravia or koomot

the display try's to guess how far is left depending how much effort is being used and in what mode so it is not very good as it goes way out of wack if you use a dongle. i have a kiox display now so can see the batt in 1-100% https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/bosch-kiox-retrofit-kit

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/emtb-owners-photo-and-ride-thread.24089/page-135

38t wont fit or you will need to use spacers to push the chain ring out and screwup the chain line, they do it on purpose so a dongle wont make much difference anyway :rolleyes:

most of the new bikes use down tube batts but if you want to use a dongle to remove the speed limit you need space for a bigger front chain ring and some frames wont let you go up any bigger at the front esp on the levo. if i hit 120 rpm at the cranks i can hit 39.6 mph but i cant keep that up...

like a stealth bomber or a suron you run the risk esp if u take the pi$$ but thats the same with anything like running down the road with a running chainsaw. with the programming cable you can push these things alot power wise or more with a different controller.

it is just a basic thumb push throttle on my m8s bike and uses it every day for 2 years no going to work and back. but if you want to hammer it you will need a big batt like 20ah plus which wont be cheap like 600 quid. my bosch 500w 13ah cost £633 :rolleyes: you can also have a throttle...

well id think you would hate the sl then but is there no dealers local where you can try a few out? thing is with the bafangs you can programme the controllers so you dont need a dongle to remove the speed limit my motor has 75nm and my m8s has 160nm bafang hd and can hit over 40mph with the...

mhale make the motors for the sl but it is only 35nm of power and thats not much at all power wise. there is also no service option for those motors yet but you really need to have a go on one b4 spending big as you might not like it at all.

is there any warranty left on the motor as it can be transferred on those bikes. https://www.ebikemotorcentre.com/repair-overhaul-service/ the brose motor is the most expensive as it is a pita to get apart

last year one of the fs giants bikes had to recall all the frames as they was cracking and it took 6 months to get a new frame and no bike. seen plenty of others with snapped frames and carbon ones with cracks in them all there fault of course. just because it cost 10k dont mean it wont fall...

they give these things only a 2 year warranty and are not expected to service or repair the motors so force you to buy a hole new one at £1000 or more. or throw the hole bike in the skip and buy a new one is what they really want. my bike has a bosch motor but the new smart frame batts wont...