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Thank you Flecc for articulating that balanced view. However what I would say is In an ideal world I agree that the more that vote the better, but changing the rules mid process which to me seems motivated not by democratic values but more about the wish to win at any cost is hardly correct, and...

I won't bother reiterating the argument. It is clear for all to see, if they have there eyes open. Arguing a case one way or another is valuable until you hit up against people like you that have no capability to listen to reason and only wish to pounce on any event or information to trash...

What absolute Tosh, so the computer breaks down for two hours on people that left it to the very last moment, so you take your massive majority to vote in a law to allow an extra 2 days, knowing full well that this advantage your campaign Sorry old groaner but now you really have lost the plot...

Oh I had a Terible thought, not an Eton toffs debating society annual event surely!,

The strange thing is the majority of the Tory party want to stay in, but as you say they would go along with Boris as leader. I don't deny your suggestion but it raises a lot of questions about motivation, politics in general, and just were this campaign is going. Indeed it was born of internal...

Neither of those two will ever be prime minister, they are both stalking horses either through lies or arrogance, or just plain stupid The next prime minister is quietly waiting in the wings, shamefully really but that's politics nowadays When will we find the leader with conviction, courage...

Just watched Osbourne on the TVs, He was completely demolished, all credibility gone The trouble with exaggerating, lieing deceiving, a skilled interrogator will always find you out. Shamefull but encouraging, when the public smell a rat then watch out

You don't hear much because the EU doesn't want you to hear. The last tranch of loans to pay off the last lot is simply pushing it into the long grass to avoid affecting the referendum, same as the new Budget announcement, The Euro army proposals, the Kettle regulations And if you think Greece...

They are aiming for political union and they are enforcing rules accordingly. They have to take fiscal responsibility in case of these hardships, and frankly EU / Germany, they are in affect the same thing in all but name

Who are you kidding!!.

Under full European Fiscal & Political union then the debts of one is the debts of all. One of the reasons that Germany has benefited so dramatically is common Euro and interest rates set by the Central bank (In Germany, by Germans, for germans) with such a massive funding they needed to park it...

I disagree whole heartedly. They were a basket case before. They were allowed to join the Euro, on ex rates and interest rates that were clearly not suited, they were encouraged and bribed with loans "repeatedly" and you think this was done blindly by the EU who simply blinkered by their Federal...

On a slightly different vein, I have allways believe that authority and responsibility have to be in the same hands. Applying that to Europe, then if Europe holds all the fiscal control, then they must also be responsible for the outcomes and accountable for them Take Greece, they have all but...

I agree the calm before the storm I am not surprised by the European stance because frankly despite our own idea this is not the endgame just the beginning of the negotiation

Rigged is a loaded phrase, but it is being heavily manipulated by camerons tactics which I find truly despicable. Up to now I voted for him and respected him. since his surprising 2nd term win he frankly seems to have lost the plot - Offering a referendum to placate Tory party members even...

Two level system is good, The Euro area with full Fiscal and political union and the rest, outside the Euro but part of the Common market, and outside of Free movement area so accommodating new entrants, even Turkey Frankly this is basically what we are asking for and helps Spain, Italy and...

OR..... You made the wrong vote, please try again! OR...... Don't worry, the government will ignore the result anyway OR ......Referendum 2 is no the way so no problem OR...... So we will re-negotiate with EU led by that fine negotiator Mr Cameron, and get less than we got last time OR ...

One more crisis needed!!!, How about the French winning the Euro 2016 against England!!! On penalties. Ha!

I would agree with that prognosis unfortunately, but it is amazing how well the out campaign has done considering they are up against the whole establishment. Which only goes to show that there are real issues in Europe that need addressing As Donald Tusk quite rightly recognised the EU needs to...

Old groaner What are you for, not what are you against?