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To make bike illegal off-road and pretend bike is legal on road? Doesn't make much sense to me. It is like being part time criminal ;) Personally I ride much slower off-road.

What is an off-road switch?

I actually like it. Individual steel boxes would be probably more secure. Not sure why they spent 1.1m on it. Loos like a big shed.

Thanks. Never seen anything like this. Looks ridiculous. ... also when you look close motor is rated 350W. 37m/h full throttle and seller claims it is road legal. Buyers beware.

My compliments... I think you have found the ugliest saddle on Ebay ;) ... and what is that? :oops:

Would company like Samsung, Panasonic, Sanyo put their brand on cells that are not A class? In other words if I see battery and in description it says there are (for example) SAMSUNG INR21700-50E cells inside, is it safe to assume they are A class?

Are you serious? :oops:

3.5k is a total overkill for a commuter and 5 mile journey, but all depends on how much you can afford. Prices of commuters start around £500. 3.5k is significantly more. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to discourage you from spending money if you can afford it. Just be aware, expensive bikes...

True. When I bought my first battery I knew almost nothing. Now I am hungry for all the information you can get. Surprisingly I find Chinese way of describing things quite helpful... but it takes time to get head around their bizarre way of thinking. Most likely. I still prefer to have it...

Which is great, but is it written on your web page? You tell us it is best to buy batteries made out of A cells, but how customer is going to find it if information is not out there?

Problem is we as customers have no way to verify what we buy. I find process of buying a battery extremely exhausting and frustrating. I am leaning towards importing battery from abroad (against my own advice).

Smoke and mirrors. As customers we totally rely on what we are told. There is no way to tell what we buy, unless somebody is willing to compromise warranty, open battery and even then I have no clue how to tell if used cells are class A,B or C. Speaking of which... I keep looking at your web...

I like it.

Question is - what is manufacturing defect? If consequence of this defect is capacity and/or continuous discharge rate reduced to 90% and price reduced to 50%, then I can live with that. Surely cells with increased risk of fire wouldn't be knowingly sold... or am I wrong to assume that? I...

Thank you. ...but based on this explanation I still don't see why we should buy A grade cells only. Shouldn't we rather find right tool for the job or right battery for certain controller/motor combo? That is a major problem I guess. YouTube is full of rants like "I paid extra for Samsung...

By all means please talk then. What are the differences between grades? How customer can determine what cell grade have been used?

Who is afraid of what? We keep talking about battery problems for years. Do you have suggestions how to fix problem?

OK... aren't you bored being right all the time? Found Swytch clone kit which looks legit and potentially TSDZ2B 250W... not sure why they advertise it for off-road only and with 40km/h speed.

How secure is it? 3.5k commuter is asking for trouble.

E-trailer https://piaggiofastforward.com/shop/gitaplus ;)