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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I had seen references to it the day before yesterday ,.. was very sceptical so this morning I checked the BCG countries .. the co relationship is striking . Yes the IT article spurred me. Even more so is the Portugal Spain comparison ,and references in Germany between DDR and West German...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is very interesting evidence emerging that the old TB BCG vaccination , reduces the severity\ fatalities of the CV19. . The cause is of course not known, but the geographical footprint is striking... . . This is very hopeful because Africa and India would have high levels of mandatory...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We don't often agree.. on this yes!.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tommie will be interested in this one.. There was a military type raid on ATMs in Dundalk this morning. Two cars were set alight at the two entrances to the Garda station , to hinder persuit,and then Two ATMs were ripped from two banks on our main Street. However they were chased by the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The major difference between the UK and Ireland was that here all the advice came from the CMO of the Dept of Health. Any political advice was basically ..we will be putting the financial resources behind this ,but listen only to the CMO...we do!. I accept that there are structural...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. Going back to my earlier post about aerosols etc and Mr SP s the importance of coughing and spitting needs to be reiterated. The figures I quoted indicate hundreds of virus particles per breath, but a swab collecting 10 million from the back of the throat. Now a gob of phlem or cough is...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Testing of the care workers by biweekly ,and restricted access from mid February would have made a huge difference.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You youngsters.. In my youth we were encouraged to wash down as far as possible ,and then starting at the feet as far up as possible... And finally wash possible.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes but these countries have had a 7 week headstart... 10th March was when the USA had only 1000 cases identified...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Two points. In a cool high humidity environment, the virus can persist. .. in a very cold environment such as deep freeze .. indefinitely . It is not consuming to remain alive,since it is not alive . It is simply a complex organic molecule with atoms arranged in a specific order. But if it gets...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The USA is on line to surpass , Germany , Italy and Spain combined by the weekend in confirmed cases.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am appalled by this image. This person is STILL producing viruses and will be for the next 3 weeks . Anyone he contacts, his staff,, etc will be infected.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes. But I am referring to Ireland. Our ratio of tests to confirmed is sitting at 10% . I am conscious of my niece in Glasgow ,not tested , but confined with symptoms.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its not!!!. And it says something about you that you cannot understand the difference. Now check again a little more closely. Wherever I made an assumption , I have indicated it. In your enthusiasm to find fault, you fail to see the woods for the trees . I am agreeing, that aerosol...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One makes a model, assigns feasible numbers and then refines these when better information is available. So taking additional information from flu studies, there is strong evidence that virus shedding of 100K particles per Hour from normal tidal breathing as aerodol ,will occur from a person...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    72 hrs is 10 half lives .. so yes some would survive . It is surface dependent and a non absorption cold surface gives the longest survival. But going back to the number of shoppers.. what is the probability that that shopper is a shedder?. Using my own local experience. ... According to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Again carrying through the logic. Once in the air, the particles start to decay. .. dessication, temperature, . Lets suggest a half life of 6 hours .(again speculation, but somewhat informed ), then the viral load from that one breath has dropped by half in that time. So if another shedder...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As before, there needs to be a sense of realism here. The key point about getting an infection is being bombarded by lots of virus particles . Even absorbing one or two will be unlikely to cause infection ,and were it to, the natural body defenses will cope. It is if they get overwhelmed , and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course it does. The term is shedding . Every breath out exhales saturated water vapour oxygen depleted air and small amounts of CO2 , other molecules also come out .. ketones and of course thousands of viruses .( It seems difficult to actually a figure of tge amount of expelled particles...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually it has been very discriminating at this early stage.. Jet Setters, The Rich and the powerful, who travel to exotic winter retreats or people the pages of Hello! Magazine have been preferentially hit.