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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nobody is saying all essential things should be free, but some things are so necessary and potentially universally used that it makes sense for all to pay through taxation for all to use, whether they pay tax or not. When did you last pay to walk on a pavement? When did you last pay for the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Absolutely not. As I made clear in an earlier post the Tories have a habit of stealing Labour policies the moment they are announced, as much as a spoiler as anything else. Corbyn was a victim of that, so a last minute announcement made sense. I think you should be more aware of how hard...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is the mark of a caring person. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I didn't say it had to be free, quote: "Just as centuries ago we had politicians with the sense to see that the postal service needed to be cheaply universally available to all" But it has to be cheap enough for everybody to access, and ideally that means free for very many. London's buses...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Essentials shouldn't have to depend on commercial interests, and broadband is now an essential for full participation in our modern life. Jeremy Corbyn had the wisdom to understand that. And it's not just broadband, the smartphone is close to having the same status now. Just as centuries ago...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Corbyn was wise enough to see that broadband had become an essential component of empowering the people to live lives to the full. Such as the poorest children having access to home education during lockdowns instead of losing out as so many did. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sadly you aren't alone in this thread in that respect. I was very much a lone voice in sticking up for Corbyn. It baffles me how few people have a mind of their own and know how to use it effectively, prefering the lazy option of believing what they've been told to believe. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The power of the Tory lies and dirty tricks machine. In terms of honesty, integrity and even competence, Jeremy Corbyn was far more electable than Boris Johnson. But the British public were too thick to see it, taken in by the lies. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree that Starmer shouldn't make promises. Indeed he should be careful of any indication on policies since the modern Tory tactic has been to simply steal each one announced to leave the opposition stumped. But the history on Major and Blair is just that, history with no validity now. If...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Labour winning over 300 of the 533 English parliamentary seats in small "c" conservative England? I'd love to see it, but I'm a realist. Come the general election at a time to suit the Tories and things will look very different anyway. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    See this post, it's not what they look at. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But you know what happens then. The Tories turn it round, reminding, if necessary falsely, how high Labour taxes were and what a shambles public services were under Labour. They have plenty of ammunition and no conscience to restrain them, so the small "c" timid conservatives frighten easily...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perfect similes. Glum Starmer just like a failing torch. Johnson the big bang excitement the public love so much. They're still missing Guy Fawkes night, American Halloween and Black Friday being pathetic substitutes. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fully agree, Clement Attlee being the perfect example. But getting them into power is another thing completely. Both the Brexit vote and the massive vote for Johnson in 2019 shows how easily the people are influenced by flamboyance. Here in Central Croydon we turned that weapon against the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The more extreme. Surely you've seen how long the list of candidates were at both of the last GEs., someone for everyone of any persuasion. Or just not bothering to vote, something Labour have always suffered from. It's how Boris Johnson became London mayor, not by winning but by Labour...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Some won't, the hard line left wingers who hated Blair. As I said, Labour can't afford to lose any votes at all, given the size of the task they face. To have overall control to be able to govern, 39% of current Tory seats need to swing to Labour, almost all of them English seats. Despite my...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    To Labour's left wing voters Starmer is very definitely Blair mark 2, another suited barrister wanting to take the party into the middle ground of the Lib Dems and moderate Tories. Labour can't afford to lose any votes at all. To get into power and be able to govern at all needs a swing of at...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They are very easily frightened off, never discount the Tory lie machine. It's destroyed many past Labour leaders and will be brought into use again if necessary. It doesn't need much, given the large numerical advantage the Tories have since the loss of Scotland and even a little of Wales...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ambition is everything to Johnson, so I think he will fight the next election to get the second term he so desperately wants in order to join that select club of multi term PMs. It was clear from the outset of his premiership that he intended to call an early election at an opportune moment...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That I wouldn't mind, especially with my heart trouble. Trouble is the dying bit doesn't happen, all I get is the suffering dragging on and on with FA done about it. Like last night woken up with painful tachycardia at 3am with it continuing for over an hour before stopping. This is the...