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    George, does not all the utterances you have made argue strongly for a judicial court of inquiry, where these allegations, quotes etc can be repeated under oath and their veracity confirmed. There has been much stated about the partisan nature of specific newspapers running a Tory agenda, with...
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    I don't want to be hijacking this thread, but I cannot agree with your first point, . Both England and Ireland were joining the EEC, I have always been convinced that the activities of the then NI establishment would have been exposed, for the corrupt practices they were. The official unionist...
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    . Tom, those in power don't need the law, it is the less powerful who need the law to constrain the powerful. That is the principle that has guided law since Magna Carta. .. to put limits on arbitrary power. . Since the turn of the 20th century,, there has been a huge improvement in the rights...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. yes I agree, you have said more succinctly the essentials of my last few posts with OG. Events have their own momentum
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    .. The commissioning architects should have been aware. That is professional responsibility. There are material data sheets , guidance notes , nicely produced technical data sheets, with nice wire tags for putting into filing cabinets. An inquiry is necessary to determine whether such...
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    Bike park pricing vote.

    ... A principal is a person, a principle is an idea , since we all were afraid of the principal at school , we would all like to go elsewhere.
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    .. the alternative is mob rule. The right way might be slower but it is surer. If one engages in street politics, it feeds into the narrative and the result is that the forces of law and order ( emphasis on order) are provided with the excuses for repression.
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    .. Those murders were not justified . The shooting dead of the perpetrators of the London bridge attack was justified, there was direct threat to innocent life. I don't think you are in a position to discuss the reasons for WW1, and I have no interest in seeking to enlighten you. Many...
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    ... As you will see in my other response to you I do not always agree, but in this case I can . Political activists and opportunists are always ready to jump on a derail protest. Case in point, I like many other Dubliners marched to the British Embassy on Stephens green on the day following...
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    Tommie, the use of a word like "terrorist" is intended as a put down and to stifle debate. Virtually every" freedom fighter" anywhere in the world has been labelled a terrorist by an opposing view. It is the simplest of responses to make. Are the American service men and women controlling...
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    .. a few hours after the fire , a member of the local council a councillor living adjacent to the tower block stated that 400 to 600 people lived in it. That is a variance of 30% . Now that was a reasonable comment for someone to make outside office hours, but it has not been revised, corrected...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. I doubt that anyone can currently square that circle. DUP and SF actually want something similar on Brexit.. no border controls on the island of Ireland. , Scots cons want a very soft brexit, Labour want a Brexit in name only , it is the hardliners within the southern cons who want the hard...
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    .. I don't think you the people own it. You need to be a republic first. There is a reason why you are called subjects.
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    I have since seen the public press statements and it is termed Emergency relief, so once it starts , it should alliviate immediate problems..... Provided they can identify the refugees A related matter is that there seems a very long delay in tabulating the statistics. .. How many people were...
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    I hope that was intended to be sarcastic, in unlikely event that it was not... 42k would not go far, replace the entire contents of a flat, replace bedding and clothes , additional costs in extra medical visits for damaged respiratory tract, burying family members
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    The catastrophe was an engineering failure, primarily, what other types of failure led up to it be they regulatory, political, economic dogma can be dissected later, and hopefully if persons were responsible, they need to be prosecuted and castigated. At this stage, when death tolls are not...
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    ..Tom there are many personal styles is behaviour, and ms May might very well be a shy person less able to empathise than another. It does not imply that she is incapable of feeling, just an inability to publicly express it. Mr Corbyn may well have a different personality. I don't think this is...
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    .. could this be related to the factories act and health and safety at work?. I noted that industrial sprinklers are listed against an EN code as well as BSI code whereas domestic installations have just a BSI code.
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    I am inclined to agree with you d8veh, but there are certain aspects of this current catastrophic event which may have a political dimension. It is very evident that the external cladding supported combustion. Other jurisdictions have more stringent regulations on this. It is suggested that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. Even if they had one three weeks ago, it is in tatters now