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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... I found the quote from Junker to which you refer . As written it does not fit well with the western European notions of democracy. However it was not actually a sentence, it was a phrase in a sentence which concluded with ... "Otherwise they would need to leave the EU." The Context was in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... All of the above were predictable and many stated prior to and post the referendum... Except the last statement. I am not aware that any individual national parliament holds a veto. There would be no value in having qualified majority voting in the EU parliament otherwise.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... last I looked the Falklands were somewhat remote from Europe. So no won't include them. There have been wars in Europe since 1945, and if one includes the Ukraine, as I would., there is still a current one. What there has not been is war between EU or EEC members. That is a fact. Whether...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... Still tenuous relationship with facts. The French were in Vietnam as colonists from at least the 1880s and the war commenced in 1946 as a war of independence, with communist backing. Your comment in respect to Australia was that they had not been involved in any war since WW2. I was...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. there is a famous Irish satirical book called" the third policeman" , in which in a monty python type sequence, police are investigating the existence of half man half bicycle, creatures. The assumption being that if one spends a long time on a bike that exchange of molecules between the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. it is a pity that the probrexiteers did not adhere to your philosophy two years ago in respect of proofs.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. well you know the engineers response to a product ... If it works, it just doesn't have enough features
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... Yep you're right,
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... Agreed but I think Woosh was referring to the transient state where the state has not yet withdrawn, but had invoked A50 . Under those conditions, the ECJ would be the competent body.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... The EU is pretty flexible about finessing solutions, and as you suggest if there's a will a way would be found. But I still think that the advice rendered in the house of lords was more whistling in the wind. What Donald Thusk said, might be more credible, but even that would not be fair...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. well it could get far badder! (A Dublin saying)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. That makes more sense . I could not see it within the competence of the council or parliament to parse an item of text. That is where a judicial process is required. But the UK must surely have an uphill struggle, it would not be automatic, and they would have to plead. Would it be on the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is exactly the source I was expecting. He is not talking from the EU. I believe, with regret, that that was wishful thinking. Where it not so, it would have been included in the article 50 text.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... I didn't know that Renault did wives, are they reliable? If your point was that there are venal Frenchmen, well quelle surprise.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. hi KudosDave, have you forgotten my request to you to identify the EU source which could allow the UK to recind their letter of secession?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... As most educational experts might suggest the acid test for competence in driving is not passing a test but having a lifetime of driving without creating an accident.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... The singing of that song, at the opening of the Scottish parliament, is well worth viewing . See it on YouTube
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ... Well in the long run you are correct, the sun SOL will fizzle out, the earth will freeze. But fortunately we are not talking about the long term, I am reasonably confident that the sun will shine somewhere on the earth tomorrow, crops will grow, babies be born.etc.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And the machinery it uses to allay conflict is called negotiating, ECJ and discussion, not tanks and guns.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .... Your knowledge of recent history and dare I say geography seems to be somewhat suspect. Australia was involved in the Vietnam conflict. The Balkans are in Europe The Ukraine is also in Europe The Falklands was a fight developed by a military junta in the argantine, seeking to maintain its...