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  1. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    apparently we had already agreed in secret about the future of Gibraltar. The Spanish wanted to start immediately joint sovereignty talk. I don't think they will get very far with it but it goes to show that the FTA won't be easy to negotiate because Spain can veto the FTA. The next PM will have...
  2. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    that's why every time I see a hard brexiter coming to the TV to say we can get a better deal, it makes me want to puke.
  3. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I referred to the staff at the Adam Smith Institute and the IEA.
  4. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    no, there is a difference. These people act within the law, spin but don't lie nor cheat.
  5. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    they get donations from corporate customers. There is a distinction between legal lobby work and illegal data mining like you have seen in prominent cases.
  6. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    they are not particularly right wing or fascist. The IEA and its cousin, the Adam Smith Institute are simply pro-american. They see the EU as direct competitior to American interests. Kate Andrews of the IEA is regularly invited by the BBC pro brexit presenters. She used to work for the Adam...
  7. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think it's simpler than that. Their main objective is deregulation like with gambling in 2012 under Labour. Also, when countries need to boost their economy, like dealing with the 2008 depression, they tend to cut taxes to stimulate investment and job creation. The payout is immediate. Just...
  8. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    true but as long as the conservatives hold the power, the UK heads for brexit. You need JC to win the next GE and maybe, just maybe, JC may be persuaded to reverse brexit via another referendum. It is still a long shot. Voters need to experience brexit before the next referendum.
  9. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    she'll get her deal because the hard brexiters and Corbynites won't make up the numbers. She will work the salami machine, she'll make them vote again and again, between the HoC and the Lords with numerous amendments until they chicken out and fall in line. In truth, the Northern Irish have the...
  10. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There were numerous polls before the EU referendum. Since, support for hard brexit has dropped a little but overall, the conservative grassroots will vote for brexit again and again...
  11. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    TM can't change her position on brexit - 70%+ of the conservative membership are brexiters and wealthy enough not to be affected by leaving the EU, they may even pick up some bargains on the way.
  12. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    TM tells brexiters who do not want her deal that they'll get no brexit, at the same time, she tells remainers who do not want her deal they'll get WTO/no deal. It is one or the other, it can't be both unless we get out on WTO then rejoin immediately. The way to no brexit is fresh GE, JC gets in...
  13. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    if a referendum is called, TM said it would be between her deal and no deal because her government is committed to deliver brexit. If TM loses the (conservative party's) confidence vote, she can't be a candidate for the leadership, the UK will have a hard brexiter PM. The problem is, TM lied but...
  14. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Q: if you can't get your deal through parliament, would you resign? TM: no plan to resign.
  15. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    TM on BBC News just now: Q: If you can't have your deal, no deal or no brexit? TM: No deal because the government has to deliver brexit. Now you have your answer if a referendum is called.
  16. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    since qualified majority voting is brought in (1/11/2014), the UK can no longer hinder, frustrate and veto what it doesn't like.
  17. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't make any plan either. part of me like the idea that UK regulations are made by and for ourselves. the other part of me like things to stay same here and in France.
  18. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    you should see how easy it is to create a panic selling of the FTSE250 with the help of hedge funds and speculators beside George Soros. For a starter (source ONS): UK foreign direct investment with the European Union. The European Union (EU) is the region with which the UK has the greatest...
  19. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    a well argued piece on the long term legal consequences with May's deal if the UK chooses a Canada style deal at later date: https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/mays-brexit-deal-the-legal-verdict/ It basically says that the UK can leave the single market but not Northern Ireland. It may be...
  20. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    there can't be a good deal compared to normal cost of membership, whoever is negotiating it. Forget about reneging on the £39 billions, we owe at least £19 billions out of the 39, they want that amount settled within the next 7 years, whatever the brexit deal. The discussion is about whether...