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It was nothing to do with protecting the motor industry, it was solely about keeping a power assist model as a bicycle so it could avoid motor vehicle bureaucracy. The two basic decisions to achieve that were first made in Japan and then largely copied by the EU, whose rules also applied to us...

That's really ingenious, but sadly probably still illegal. In a test case the judge's ruling was that the rider effort through the pedals had to propel the machine. The circumstances of that case were different, but it seems likely the way the judge interpreted the law would also rule against...

They're posting in a forum that's not for the e-bike subject, so their presence and posting is still appropriate. And with reference to indoctrination, 80% of the members are in the second half of life so are mature enough to look after themselves without self appointed policemen acting for...

No that time hasn't come, freedom of speech is more important. If you don't like the subject, don't enter it, simple. It's clearly titled and in a forum separate from the e-biking ones so why are you looking at it if you don't like it? Masochism? Anyway the administrators are unlikely to...

No, it's been ruled by the courts that they have to be working pedals. The Mando does have working pedals, electrical transmission. .

Specialist web sites often have a forum for discussions outside the main subject of interest, it was no different on the computing site I used to work on. It recognises that people have a life and other interests outside of the specialist subject. And most importantly it generates the traffic...

Might not be much of a lifetime though! After 101 pages the Vaping thread ceased in March 2017, so maybe all the vapers have gassed or electrocuted themselves! ;) .

An observation on these two speed limits: 1) The 6 kph (3.7 mph) walk assist limit is mainland EU law, in UK law it's 4 mph. 2) The DfT has confirmed that the customary 10% tolerance on speed limit compliance also applies to pedelecs. Therefore the ultimate legal assist limit is 17 mph. .

So? They aren't hurting anyone in the e-biking forums. That Brexit thread content is no different from what's always happened in pubs all over this land. Just ordinary normally powerless people finding an outlet to express their views for once. Ther irrational thing is those who don't like...

Sorry, I disagree. A long term continuous decline such as that we suffered before joining the Common Market can never be correctly described as successful. It was year on year unsuccessful, ending up with the IMF coming in to run the economy until we returned to some health. .

And the second largest thread with 101 pages is about Vaping. Link Strange nobody moans about that? .

Well I did try with this post, and MS has acknowledged that this thread should have been in the Charging Post. The fact is that those posting in the Brexit thread never bring it into the e-bike forums, it's those who don't like that thread who often do! So who are the irrational ones? ;) .

Actually the regulations aren't new, these type approval regulations were accepted into law by parliament on 10th November 2003, almost fifteen years ago. Unfortunately the civil service messed up and failed to amend the EAPC regulations to match as instructed, so we appeared to have two...

Indeed, it won't just go to people's graves, their views on it will be engraved on headstones. :) .

Like the Brexit thread, this really belonged in The Charging Post forum, which is for non-ebike subject discussions. .

That's right, we need another referendum asking: If a bad Brexit agreement was the only option, would you rather remain in the EU? [Yes] [No] I reckon the 67% would tick the Yes box. .

And when the DUP support is no longer needed, watch it reduce as the post Brexit hardships bite. Sooner rather than later N.I will be expected to be self supporting. .

Well there we are, 67% is a two-thirds majority to cancel Brexit. :) .

This is true. The only thing that makes throttles illegal is if they work without pedalling. Even manufactured pedelecs have throttles, since their switched power levels are simply stepped throttles. .

During the troubles a poll showed the great majority in Britain wanted Ireland to be united outside of the UK. I wouldn't be surprised if that still holds true, Northern Ireland's love affair with the UK has always been very much one way. .