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@D8ve, have you heard of the lexiteers? if you haven't, this guy explains their view better than I can. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/opinion/why-brexit-is-best-for-britain-the-left-wing-case.html?_r=0

most of this list is achievable. Have a little faith in our negotiators.

I don't think it's likely that we will water down workers and environmental protection. Mrs May has had a pretty good run so far with Mr Corbyn's help but now that A50 is about to be triggered, normal opposition will come back. That means that Mrs May can't bully anyone anymore.

cupid and psyche? Rider and his bike?

The main difference between the two types of motor is the way the bike wiggles its derriere. I sometimes do a 'wiggling' test for the feel of the bike, holding to the left brake and the saddle. The less the bike wiggles its derriere, the more it feels bikey.

The Woosh Krieger is a crank drive bike, it costs £999 including delivery. It is now fitted with a gear sensor. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?krieger

that's totally unfounded - parliament will have to pass legislation for these things. How do you know if and when they are going to be reality?

some factors affecting the average range beside the weather that I can think of: 1. tyre width and diameter 2. tyre inflation pressure 3. quality of the suspension and its setting 4. traffic 5. Clothing 6. type of motor, some are truly awful at start/stops, some too good at it and subsequently...

The test in d8veh's post is hill climbing. For a CD motor climbing a hill, you need to select a gear that suits the motor + gradient combo for the best climbing speed. The guy who rides a hub bike is not so constraint, he is freer to choose.

It's not the BMS that causes the battery to sag, it's the internal impedance of the cells. the spec sheet for the LG M26 cell is here if anyone is interested: https://www.imrbatteries.com/content/lg_M26.pdf They quoted 60milli-Ohms or better. On a string of 13 cells, that adds up to 13 x 60...

How about this as an explanation: the rider on the bike with a hub motor may have chosen a gear that suits his natural cadence and sticks to it, he is therefore more productive pedaling his bike than his mates who have to change gears all the time.

I usually ask the customers where they live, then give then my estimate the range that they can expect. The mental arithmetics works like this: small motor (Bafang SWX): 10WH per mile medium size motor (Bafang SWX02): 11WH per mile big motor and CD motor: 12WH per mile weight factor: 0.5WH per...

which cells do you use to have 20A discharge without blinking?

something like the Woosh Crusa? It has a 36V 13AH battery (468WH), range about 40 miles. http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?crusa

they can of course be all correct and all incorrect. These ranges are estimates and the companies should make that very clear and also give the WH or at least AH which are better approximation of the capability of their batteries.

last night's Question Time was one of the most civilized debates on brexit that I've watched for a long time. If you have not seen it, here is a link to iplayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08kzbyf/question-time-britain-after-brexit

oldtom, yes, you are totally right as usual. I bow to your superior intellect and your perfect command of the English language.

so you continue to belittle and insult me. Do you realize you are the only person who consider himself so superior?

the Woosh Gallego can do that. You can half fold and push it around like a luggage case. (tilted on its rack wheels). or you can fold it completely and carry it in the supplied carry bag. At work, it folds small enough to go under a desk. Range is about 20 miles (36V 7.5AH battery), it...

OK, oldtom has a closed mind.