Bosch Smart system with Speedbox 1.0b (Don't buy)

[Steve A]

Just to advise after only 100 miles the speedbox 1.0b for Bosch smart system let me down. It was discovered by the bosch smart sytem and errored into limp mode. I spoke with Speedbox this morning and they admitted it could well happen again. This product is flawed, do not buy. I now have a 90 minute ride in limp mode to reset. Maybe the badass 4 will work?.

 

[soundwave]

did you get 3 504 errors and then went in to limp mode ? did you have any firmware updates to the bike ?

a dealer can reset it but it is not clear at all how many times this can be done but any dongle that is wired in to the bikes motor could be bricked buy the new smart system.

a bad ass dongle whould be the best bet as it just sits on the speed sensor but they only go to 25mph these days but you will need the sensor adaptor for gen 4 motors.

 

[Steve A]

Sent dongle back to 2 wheel empire and waiting for the new pear tune moo version 4. Bosch told me to ride in limp mode up to 90 mins (not all at once, and it clears error). I can do this up to 3 times before dealer intervention. It's a pain in the arse, but ill not update anymore and see how get on with the pear tune. The bike at 15mph isn't for me. If I can't get it to work then the bikes going and I'm back to my 2016 Haibike. By the way the old Bosch motor from 2016 feels better than the 2022 model. hmmm

 

[SamuelC]

Sent dongle back to 2 wheel empire and waiting for the new pear tune moo version 4. Bosch told me to ride in limp mode up to 90 mins (not all at once, and it clears error). I can do this up to 3 times before dealer intervention. It's a pain in the arse, but ill not update anymore and see how get on with the pear tune. The bike at 15mph isn't for me. If I can't get it to work then the bikes going and I'm back to my 2016 Haibike. By the way the old Bosch motor from 2016 feels better than the 2022 model. hmmm

How did you get on with the pear tune? I’ve had the error with speedbox and definitely don’t want to go back to a restricted bike.

 

[soundwave]

i really would not try using dongles that are wired in to these motors esp if you want software upgrades to the display or firmware updates could brick any of them so if you do get it to work nothing can ever be updated.

if they start to use gps then it will mean the end of any dongles on these things i software updated my kiox and it now stores the data for every ride and when it syncsto the phone app it is all uploaded minus the gps.

 

[SamuelC]

i really would not try using dongles that are wired in to these motors esp if you want software upgrades to the display or firmware updates could brick any of them so if you do get it to work nothing can ever be updated.

if they start to use gps then it will mean the end of any dongles on these things i software updated my kiox and it now stores the data for every ride and when it syncsto the phone app it is all uploaded minus the gps.

My bike doesn’t have a magnet to do it that way so it’s dongle or nothing. I’m not fussed about all the smart features and the gimmicks with the bike I’d rather not update it. I just wait it derestricted and forget about it.
if I can’t get it to work with the Cube I think I’ll sell and get a Levo.

 

[soundwave]

it has a magnet look on the disc rotor is where it tends to be on these bikes but you will be limited to 25mph so if you want faster than that then wired is the only way.

try on the EMTB forum in the derestricted section as more ppl have them over there so get the best one that they are using with no problems.

and trust me you dont want a levo loads of motor problems let alone using a dongle on it and cracked carbon frames and snapped pivot bolts.

 

[Steve A]

How did you get on with the pear tune? I’ve had the error with speedbox and definitely don’t want to go back to a restricted bike.

Peartune returned as error, grrrr

 

[Kev.k]

Are cube bikes difficult to derestrict?

Most of the bosch owners having issues seem to have cube bikes.

I’ve seen one local I might be interested in.

 

[soundwave]

only with the new smart motors but there are now dongles for them a ebikeshop sell them with there bikes and a few months ago this was not a option.

problem is you can never update the software or it will brick the dongle

 

[Kev.k]

This is local on eBay. I’d take a chance at the right price.

If ebikeshop have them surely someone will copy it?

 

[soundwave]

they use the speed box 1

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there are others but still a bit hit and miss if it works or not but most of them are on here.

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if you can get that under 2 id go for it as out of all of these bikes the most expensive thing to replace are the batts.

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those down tube batts well watch for ur self

 

[Kev.k]

I’m a short ass. 5’10”.

I have seen a Haibike N-Duro and a X-Duro i like and they’re not too far away.

The cube is 10 mins away and looks clean. If it’s a PITA to derestrict I cba.

Im guessing new cube bikes will be discounted with the new model coming. They look nice but I couldn’t spend that much on a bike.

 

[soundwave]

well the new bikes for next year tend to start showing up around the end of august sep but getting a dongle to work should not be a problem now but on most of these bikes there made so you cant run a massive front chain ring.

mine would be a 52t normal size sprocket and 10t at rear.

 

[Steve A]

Just don’t buy the SpeedBox it will let you down. I’m waiting for the volspeed.

 

[AndyBike]

So which are you getting it ?

 

[Kees Zeeman]

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I'd rather have a dongle on it, but in my research I've found it's not that simple.
Due to speed sensor, error codes etc.

Can anyone give me advice on what I should research, for an error-free dongle on the bike above.

Thanks

 

[soundwave]

if you get the bike from here they will dongle it and still have the 2 year warranty.

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[Kees Zeeman]

Sounds good.

Unfortunately not possible, because I come from the Netherlands