Wisper 905SE Brakes

Wisper Bikes

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Plastic?

I do have the metal levers :(
Hi Killjoy

They have never been made of plastic or elastic! :p It was simply a case of the "pull" on the brakes was not long enough with the old levers, the new and current ones are amazingly good. I will put you on the list for a free pair.

All the best David
 

torrent99

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Nov 14, 2008
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Hi Killjoy

They have never been made of plastic or elastic! :p It was simply a case of the "pull" on the brakes was not long enough with the old levers, the new and current ones are amazingly good. I will put you on the list for a free pair.

All the best David
Sorry didn't mean to say that the lever itself was plastic (that's metal alright) but the body on mine seems to be and it flexes as you pull the lever....however, you're right the pull isn't really long enough on the old levers.

(My front brake cut-out switch has now stopped working ... I'll have to see if it's just a broken wire or something more difficult to fix.:()

(Fixed! It was a broken section of wire, new section soldered in... Nice to see you are using waterproof switches & sealed connections all the way round :) )
 
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Wisper Bikes

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Hi Torrent

Yes they were awful, you are on the list for a free pair of the new levers.

Re the brake cut out, I am pleased you managed to sort it out.

Best regards David
 

MikeB

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Oct 2, 2007
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Works 905e Brake Systems

My model is fitted with a Zoom front calliper which has been superb for the last 17 months or so, ok a little adjustment has been required which is really easy due to allen key access through the wheel spokes, All I need is a new set of pads as they are about to grind the disc away:mad:
The levers are very loose and wobble about due to wear in the level pivots, the water seals on the cable(electric) entry points are rubbish, switches are disconnected to stop constant cutting out, if seal have been improved since Oct 07 delivery, I could do with a set, please advise on cost etc.
Rear brakes are Shimano Vtype (or appear to be) and work fine, have replaced a few sets of blocks (old timer term). Did have all the cables changed at the first service last Easter due to poor action (according to my local bike man) and the bottom bracket was also changed along with the head bearings which were the main reason for booking the service as it was getting very notchy (the steering) apart from that all is fine and these bits didn't exactly cost the earth, the bottom bracket is ready for changing again this year.

So Dave price and availablility please for Zoom Pads and seals for switches if poss.

Cheers

Mike
 

ruy lopez

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Nov 30, 2008
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just a small note but on a £1200 bike that i am seriously thinking about buying should i be worried that small ( in my mind ) details like this haven't been thought about and fixed at source ? if multiple owners are reporting the same problems after a short period of owning the bike what else is going to crop up in the medium/long term ???
i understand that bikes are bikes and all riders have their own tastes as to the way they are set up , but i dont expect to pay what is the equivelent of a small family car then have to carry out what seems to be adjustments or upgrades just to make the bike stop safely !
i may be being a little dramatic here but surely this is a problem the guys at wisper should have noticed and corrected ?

cheers

big jus
I agree. The rear brake on Mrs Lopez's recently acquired 705SE cannot be satisfactorily adjusted. Option 1 is to set the brake so that the rear wheel will run freely without the shoes binding. But then the large mechanical advantage and stretchy cable mean that when the brake lever is pulled so far that it contacts the handlebar, the brake is still not properly 'on'. Option 2 is to set the brake so that it can be properly applied. But then the shoes bind when the brake is 'off', and the wheel won't run freely.
 

Wisper Bikes

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Hi Ruy

Sorry to hear that you are having problems. All our brake problems have now been resolved and we would be pleased to either fit new parts to your bike or send them out to you.

Please contact Norman at service@wisprbikes.com for help and advice.

Best regards David
 

the_killjoy

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May 26, 2008
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Norman

Thanks for the new brake levers, I look forward to fitting them and trying them out.
 

Cometxt

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Jul 21, 2008
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OOOps!-frying pan to fire

New brake handles arrived today, great, after half an hour of joyfully unwrapping and detaching fittings I swoped them over and all appeared fine, for a short while.
From the brake perspective a much improved sharper and tighter feel. Thats the good bit.
Bad bit in removing the electricians I have obviously either disconnected something previously connected, or mistakenly plugged into a wrong socket, get power to switch but no power to motor.
I have come across wiring diagram in previous threads but after an hour of searching can no longer find.
Could any one point me in the right direction please.

Regards
Cometxt
 

Mussels

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Jun 17, 2008
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I recieved the brake levers thanks. :)
It was a whole 30 seconds before I broke them. :(
The spring snapped, have you got any more? :eek:
I have used the spring from the old one but it doesn't quite do the job.
 

Phil the drill

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Jun 14, 2008
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New brake handles arrived today, great, after half an hour of joyfully unwrapping and detaching fittings I swoped them over and all appeared fine, for a short while.
From the brake perspective a much improved sharper and tighter feel. Thats the good bit.
Bad bit in removing the electricians I have obviously either disconnected something previously connected, or mistakenly plugged into a wrong socket, get power to switch but no power to motor.
I have come across wiring diagram in previous threads but after an hour of searching can no longer find.
Could any one point me in the right direction please.

Regards
Cometxt
I had that problem too, but it turned out that the micro switch in one of the brake lever housings wasn't quite closing properly, thus the power to the motor was permanently cut off. Test by unplugging the brake levers from the controller and trying it. If the brake switch is faulty the motor should still work when they are disconnected.
It may not be the answer, but it is the simple first place to check.
Hope it helps.

Phil
 

Phil the drill

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I recieved the brake levers thanks. :)
It was a whole 30 seconds before I broke them. :(
The spring snapped, have you got any more? :eek:
I have used the spring from the old one but it doesn't quite do the job.
Funny that, exactly the same happened to me. I also used a spring from an old lever (not the old Wisper one as I had rashly binned those before busting the new lever spring). I just did a bit of surgery on an old spring to beef it up a bit and that has been fine since. I probably should have asked for new spring, but was too lazy to bother :D .

Phil
 

torrent99

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Nov 14, 2008
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Just (literally) got my new levers, not had chance to fit them yet.
Many thanks to David and Norman!


These APSE ones are MUCH better built than the old Wuxing ones, with an all metal construction that inspires confidence.

Interestingly one of them has only a short lead on in with a 3 (yes 3) pin connector.... that'll provide some interest a hall effect switch perhaps? Looking inside the lever, the switch on that on doesn't have a waterproof cover either unlike the other... it's a mystery. Oh well if it's a problem I can always do some transplantation from the old levers.

I'm looking forward to fitting these! :D
 

Cometxt

Finding my (electric) wheels
Jul 21, 2008
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I had that problem too, but it turned out that the micro switch in one of the brake lever housings wasn't quite closing properly, thus the power to the motor was permanently cut off. Test by unplugging the brake levers from the controller and trying it. If the brake switch is faulty the motor should still work when they are disconnected.
It may not be the answer, but it is the simple first place to check.
Hope it helps.

Phil
Phil

Thanks for the advice. Spot on. Spent a further hour marking the wires and putting the brake handle back together after tweaking the micro switch, now working fine.

Regards

Cometxt
 

Norman

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Oct 20, 2008
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Apologies to any customers who may have received the modified levers with a 3 pin connector.

Please send me a PM with your address details and I will send you the correct lever(s) with the two pin plug.

I can also provide some replacement springs for any that have failed.

Norman
 

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