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I don't bother with pallets .

In the spring I have six 1ton builder bags delivered full of old cut up scaffold boards on to my driveway and the wood keeps us toasty during colder /damp days, bonus too as the scaffold company deliver the off cuts for free as it is cheaper to do so then having to pay some one to cart it all away.

You guys are so old school. This is what I use for heating in the winter.

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Just remember it was started by a Diesel car! ...

I thought the water dropping planes would have stopped it? Didn't the NASA s.atellites pick it up with AI and douse the area toute suite? .... ...

(But RIP to those lost , and homes lost, etc, so deleting the smileys, etc)

there just keeping warm and no planes or water as bindo and air force one says no also stopped all there home insurance 2 months ago and let the brush become a tinder box.

 

The 2028 Summer Olympics, officially the Games of the XXXIV Olympiad and commonly known as Los Angeles 2028 or LA28,

 

:p

https://www.infowars.com/posts/next-level-insanity-biden-admin-ordered-la-airspace-closed-to-fire-fighting-aircraft-for-over-a-day-during-his-visit-allowing-historic-blaze-to-burn-out-of-control

 

https://www.infowars.com/posts/uk-government-using-psychological-nudge-unit-to-counter-heat-pump-skepticism

Just remember it was started by a Diesel car! ...

I thought the water dropping planes would have stopped it? Didn't the NASA s.atellites pick it up with AI and douse the area toute suite? .... ...

(But RIP to those lost , and homes lost, etc, so deleting the smileys, etc)

Got rid of reservoir water

Got rid of qualified firemen

Didn't clear brushwood

Gave away fire fighting eqpt

Cut fire dept budget by $17m

Insurance companies cancelled policies, wow, sus!

 

Got rid of reservoir water

Got rid of qualified firemen

Didn't clear brushwood

Gave away fire fighting eqpt

Cut fire dept budget by $17m

Insurance companies cancelled policies, wow, sus!

That is insensitive comments if I could speak frankly. They are clearly irrelevant when you see the amount of embers flying around the entire area in wind up to 100mph. Do you want fire fighting pilots to fly in those conditions?

I still remember that beautiful stretch of the coastal highway going to malibu. God knows what it will look like after the fires.

BTW It's not water that is lacking, it's the network of pipes. The area is hilly, a lot more trees than an average town. The pumps won't be able to supply enough water to fight so many fires at once.

That is insensitive comments if I could speak frankly. They are clearly irrelevant when you see the amount of embers flying around the entire area in wind up to 100mph. Do you want fire fighting pilots to fly in those conditions?

I still remember that beautiful stretch of the coastal highway going to malibu. God knows what it will look like after the fires.

BTW It's not water that is lacking, it's the network of pipes. The area is hilly, a lot more trees than an average town. The pumps won't be able to supply enough water to fight so many fires at once.

The fire planes were grounded coz Potato was visiting in his plane?

I think it's v. "Insensitive" of him to impede the firefighting effort for a photo op.

I saw video of planes dropping water. If planes were scooping water from the sea then the pipes, or lack thereof would not be an issue.

I take the populated areas have water (for living) and fire hydrants as summer fires are common. Are the burnt areas are unpopulated?

Is it summer? Do they have "wildfires" in winter?

I saw firemen with water bags running to and fro throwing them on buildings!

How windy is it, It says winds "expected"

https://www.wunderground.com/maps/wind/current-winds/lax

They have fires virtually every year but they usually are isolated fires, not whipped up by 60mph to 100mph Santa Ana wind. We have in France the mistral in winters, the problem with forest fires is very similar. Firemen and bombardier planes can't work as much as people anxiously want them to. They scoop water from reservoirs and lakes, rarely from the sea presumably because the sea may be choppy. Helicopters can't work in high wind.

Did you watch the video clips of the fires? Did you see how far smokes went out to the ocean?

The criticism seems to to me rash and politically motivated rather than justified by facts.

My sister lives in the area. I am still waiting for news.

Did they turn off the sattellite cameras? Are the hydrants empty?

no and no. The wind has died down since yesterday but it may pick up again.

What they need is rain.

This is a lengthy document and I don't right now have enough time to read it all, but looking at it quickly, I don't get a sense of it showing the large scale of these organised abuse offences. It does point out the need for better data collection on ethnicity, but we know from prosecutions about that.

 

Using ctrl f to search the word Pakistani, it contains the word only ONCE in 198 pages and that is not at all in connection with abusers...........

They all knew exactly what was going on. One father had two thick ring-binders of meetings he had about his daughter with the police, social services and the council. His story is horrific. Nobody would co-operate.

 

There was a memo sent to all police chiefs from the Home Office telling them not to get involved, so at least the Home Office knew. That was the basis of the problem. The only question is why they sent it, and I can guarantee that it wasn't because they were afraid of being labelled racists.

how would you prosecute those who are not identifiable?

 

 

The size of the problem is in the UK, 115,000 cases of child sex abuses are reported every year and not prosecuted. Compare that to those who are old enough to drink alcohol and take drugs and climb into cars with dodgy men.

In Telford, the police announced that they had 200 under investigation for that crime. I calculate from the census that there were around 1000 adult guys that met the profile, so that's one in 5. They shouldn't have far to look.

In Telford, the police announced that they had 200 under investigation for that crime. I calculate from the census that there were around 1000 adult guys that met the profile, so that's one in 5. They shouldn't have far to look.

Why do you want to give them priority of police and court time? Even if the court put them in temporary detention prior to hearing, how many can be put in jail in Telford? I know of a case in Southend-On-Sea, the victim has to wait 10 years for justice. The guy got sent 500 miles away to serve his sentence. There are about a million similar victims in the uk waiting for justice. You can see why CPS wants low hanging fruits with 90%+ probability of conviction. Anyway, what started this row was who pays for the public enquiry in Oldham isn't it?

People want to vent their anger at public enquiries but how about the victims? While the enquiry goes on, the police stop more or less working on the individual cases until the public hearing is over. Then, both conservative and labour have still not done much for the last one, completed in 2022 at the cost of 200 mils. The only result out of this is the lawyers rake in millions in fees while the victims are kept waiting.

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I heard a discussion about this on the BBC - i think it was early this morning. It seems that the idea of the Home Office giving a steer to police that some young people - technically 'children', were making choices of their own to 'go with' older males, began with Nazir Afzal's remarks in a couple of interviews. There is no memo.

 

The campaigner Maggie Oliver also has repeated the idea of a Home Office Memo, but she says she had it from Afzal's interview, and she took it as authoritative, because of his position in the CPS. Afzal has done much to improve the prosecution rates. When he had the authority in the North West, he really increased the prosecution rates and re-opened cases which had been shelved for prosecution on the grounds that the young girls would not make good witnesses. He re-opened them and pursued them to conviction.

 

However - while BBC Verify have shown there was no such official memo from the Home Office -in reality, it makes no difference, if the custom and practice of the Crown Prosecution Service was to discount months of police work by shelving cases (as Maggie Oliver describes happening to one of her cases) because the victims were a bit rough and ready.

 

Why would anyone be surprised that police at ground zero, showed a reluctance to pursue cases to charge, when they knew the CPS would be unlikely to take the cases to court? One officer said to a victim's father, 'I hope this teaches her a lesson', after his daughter was admitted to hospital because of horrific internal injuries done to her in a gang rape that she suffered as part of long exploitation, by hideous Pakistani offenders.

 

The fact that the CPS between 2000 to about 2014, was so unwilling to prosecute these gang members, is for all practical purposes, the equivalent of having an official policy of non intervention.

 

Afzal changed that.

 

One thing to say about the official inquiries we have had - both the Jay one and the Home Office one that Peter linked to a couple of days ago, is that they persistently avoided noticing the heavy involvement of Pakistani criminal gangs. Jay in particular looked at evidence from police forces without any prosecutions for this particular boyfriend grooming prostitution model of cases now called grooming gangs. I believe itonly looked at two police areas which had this kind of offence prosecuted, inspite of the fact that this mode of pimping out girls to huge numbers of offenders was all over the country. THIS COST £200 MILLION! USELESS!

 

In the Home Office Inquiry, the word Pakistani only came up once I think and that was in connection with a Pakistani girl victim. I find it VERY HARD not to be convinced that the authorities have not been EXTREMELY reluctant to open the box and really take a hard look inside. It seems to me that they consider that anything is better than upsetting the multi cultural apple cart, no matter how rotten it is.

In Telford, the police announced that they had 200 under investigation for that crime. I calculate from the census that there were around 1000 adult guys that met the profile, so that's one in 5. They shouldn't have far to look.

 

Telford had a particularly high number of victims - especially for the size of its population. The enquiry thought that a thousand girls had been victimised over 40 years and that the council had repeatedly ignored what was going on. In the Charlie Peters documentary, one of the Telford victims who had set aside her right to anonymity, seemed very credible and did not fit the profile of 'rough working class girls'. She had got involved with a young man as his girlfriend and once that was established the boyfriend model was shifted to her being drugged and mass abuse. It reminds me of the car loads of Pakistani young men congregating outside a Newcastle girls school that I know of where men of about 20, were shouting and cat calling at girls of about 13 inviting them to go for a ride - this around 2003 and the police refused the school's request to move them on. Later court cases revealed hundreds of victims and total sentences of over 500 years.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

They all knew exactly what was going on. One father had two thick ring-binders of meetings he had about his daughter with the police, social services and the council. His story is horrific. Nobody would co-operate.

 

There was a memo sent to all police chiefs from the Home Office telling them not to get involved, so at least the Home Office knew. That was the basis of the problem. The only question is why they sent it, and I can guarantee that it wasn't because they were afraid of being labelled racists.

Still believing all those crazy conspiracy theories I see. The story about a memo from the Home Office is totally unfounded.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2g7qgl1eo

sales of evs are increasing at the rate of knots.

In your dreams, maybe. Percentage of EVs went up because they wouldn't let anybody have ICE cars in November and December, they they had to buy all the EVs themselves and dtick them in a field because nobody wants them. If you want one, you can get them with 7 miles on the clock (field and back) and one previous owner for 40% off list price.

 

The European car industry is in dire straights. Dealers are going bust on a daily basis and the factories are laying off thousands of workers - all because they invested heavily in EVs that nobody wants. They've had to put up the prices of ICE cars to try to cover some of the EV losses. That's put people off buying them too.

In your dreams, maybe. Percentage of EVs went up because they wouldn't let anybody have ICE cars in November and December, they they had to buy all the EVs themselves and dtick them in a field because nobody wants them. If you want one, you can get them with 7 miles on the clock (field and back) and one previous owner for 40% off list price.

 

The European car industry is in dire straights. Dealers are going bust on a daily basis and the factories are laying off thousands of workers - all because they invested heavily in EVs that nobody wants. They've had to put up the prices of ICE cars to try to cover some of the EV losses. That's put people off buying them too.

Total sales ev+ice are static or growing very slowly for a few years now. If people buy evs then factories that build ice will have to reduce their workforce. Until now ice are cheaper to buy. It's the other way from 2025. Sales of evs will accelerate. Just look at MG5, Zeekr 007, BYD sea lion, Ford, gm, cupra etc they all bring out great bevs this year. Batteries have improved so much in value for money and safety that the old bets are heavily discounted, 25% TO 35% and may be even more. Ice don't improve so fast. The guy on electric viking just placed his order for a tesla model y range about 570kms for about 60,000 Australian dollars or about ,£30,000. How can ice compete with that?

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They have fires virtually every year but they usually are isolated fires, not whipped up by 60mph to 100mph Santa Ana wind. We have in France the mistral in winters, the problem with forest fires is very similar. Firemen and bombardier planes can't work as much as people anxiously want them to. They scoop water from reservoirs and lakes, rarely from the sea presumably because the sea may be choppy. Helicopters can't work in high wind.

Did you watch the video clips of the fires? Did you see how far smokes went out to the ocean?

The criticism seems to to me rash and politically motivated rather than justified by facts.

My sister lives in the area. I am still waiting for news.

That's wrong. It was climate change that caused the fires. It cut all the budgets, sacked all the strong male fireman, removed the waterpipes and caused 3 people to start the fires in three different locations simultaneously just when conditions were perfect to make the fires rip through the towns. All that just after the development plans were released with a vision of how the area could be made super eco-friendly if only there was some way to get rid off the existing structures. I told you climate change is bad and we need to cancel it.

Total sales ev+ice are static or growing very slowly for a few years now. If people buy evs then factories that build ice will have to reduce their workforce. Until now ice are cheaper to buy. It's the other way from 2025. Sales of evs will accelerate. Just look at MG5, Zeekr 007, BYD sea lion, Ford, gm, cupra etc they all bring out great bevs this year. Batteries have improved so much in value for money and safety that the old bets are heavily discounted, 25% TO 35% and may be even more. Ice don't improve so fast. The guy on electric viking just placed his order for a tesla model y range about 570kms for about 60,000 Australian dollars or about ,£30,000. How can ice compete with that?

Sorry, when you said rate of knots, I thought you meant the speed nautical miles per hour. Now I get it, you mean knots that tie you up. Yes, that makes more sense.

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