https://www.tooled-up.com/makita-39-piece-1-4-ratchet-driver-and-screwdriver-bit-set/prod/196385/

 

i use that for the handle bar stuff and comes with a adaptor

 

Thanks SW, that's a very good price indeed, considering it's Makita branded.

The Draper ones with certification are OK - I have one. Just make sure you don't get the one that starts at 30Nm (the one in the blue case you linked to), which is for cars not bikes. You need something that will measure down to 5Nm or thereabouts.

The Draper ones with certification are OK - I have one. Just make sure you don't get the one that starts at 30Nm (the one in the blue case you linked to), which is for cars not bikes. You need something that will measure down to 5Nm or thereabouts.

 

The Park Tool is the front runner at the mo, can't beat that torque range:

 

https://www.bikeparts.co.uk/products/park-tool-tw-2-2-beam-type-torque-wrench-0-60nm-3-8-drive?currency=GBP&variant=

 

...and this Makita set:

 

https://www.tooled-up.com/makita-39-piece-1-4-ratchet-driver-and-screwdriver-bit-set/prod/196385/

The Park Tool doesn't mention % accuracy which I'd expect at that price, but then again Park Tool is unlikely to sell bad tools, so its probably within 10% or so.

 

The one you linked to was 'Perfect for mid-to-high-torque applications such as bottom brackets, cassette lockrings, and crank bolts '. They do a smaller one too if you want something more accurate for lower torques:

https://www.parktool.com/product/beam-type-torque-wrench-0-14-nm-tw-1-2

 

The Makita - I couldn't see any torque component in there but the price is fab, agreed.

the kit comes with a adaptor for the torque wrench and has all the torx and hex bits you need had mine for years now.

The Park Tool doesn't mention % accuracy which I'd expect at that price, but then again Park Tool is unlikely to sell bad tools, so its probably within 10% or so.

 

The one you linked to was 'Perfect for mid-to-high-torque applications such as bottom brackets, cassette lockrings, and crank bolts '. They do a smaller one too if you want something more accurate for lower torques:

https://www.parktool.com/product/beam-type-torque-wrench-0-14-nm-tw-1-2

 

The Makita - I couldn't see any torque component in there but the price is fab, agreed.

 

I don't do small torque Good point. Let's face it, any measuring device relying predominantly on a big spring, is highly likely to be affected by the weather a little, and by moon phases much less. But it is a Park Tool... tool... therefore has to be better than most other similar tools relying on big ol' springs, else the furore on Youtube and the interwebs in general would be bitter and tumultuous indeed. I need accuracy most around 10 to 50nm (to tighten the torqueier bits on the bbs01b), so am now veering once again towards the Sealey 7Nm-112Nm "Calibration tolerance in accordance with BS EN ISO 6789-1:2017" , at 38.89 squids. The Makita set is for the sockets.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224081638243?epid=HAHA-YOU-WILL-NEVER-TRACK-ME-EBAY-LOL-LOL-LOL-MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Edited April 29, 20224 yr by guerney

this is 10 to 80 cheaper and comes with socket adaptors.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353835870994?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D238698%26meid%3D6462e5d2d1d646319cad445426daccb9%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D224081638243%26itm%3D353835870994%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWebMskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedPLXV3Ranker%26brand%3DDraper&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A3538358709946462e5d2d1d646319cad445426daccb9%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABIF5w9SIYA7LCsjjN3P6Yl26VztH0VKUH9PSWDJnasZbD1yCZJUhd3q2YXl6I7nNELSwP159v9id1K2rKKUMaxSnD5Ewcv37zy0jTcFdeOVgQ0HLAU52nZijlULp%252FMZODgA07A%252Bz62X4TUn2XlQoYQOrBxmdAa0tpDCrjQacdNQESLZnFD7DEFybYw1PJgX%252BEN6NyF80aJIYEmAkxa75XfQM%252Betmmo%252FCDiYrb5OrKhucusnfwfuIJMSm6OIaGOBjyvpx7a440LbrEpA%252BnaoVj2XyLo05R%252FI9Pbe9u51LH4rMxg6O1I79f8FQvJcfnPo7M5zHyPAtwSOginEruTJYlYeSJ%252BeRTbn%252Bk3XYkTCF1XudqwY2d9I2fGdyF16E08pphJQ%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=19026726125

 

tho out of all my tools i mostly use that kit and small ratchet

the kit comes with a adaptor for the torque wrench and has all the torx and hex bits you need had mine for years now.

 

BTW SW, I might give Bitwig a go on Linux. Looks more fun (and cheaper) than Ableton. Bitwig is supposed to be much more stable these days. I don't need more than 8 tracks most of the time (their cheapo 99 EURO version), and can always mix/bounce a few tracks down.

not looked at music software for years now just a money pit i bought nuendo 4 back in the day think it was £1400 and sold it for £300 as could upgrade it from 4 to the latest version but these days it would be worthless.

 

i still have a crack copy tho but you need a decent sound card a motu 2408mk3 goes for peanuts if it has the pci card tho i doubt the drivers will work on linux.

this is 10 to 80 cheaper and comes with socket adaptors.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353835870994?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D238698%26meid%3D6462e5d2d1d646319cad445426daccb9%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D224081638243%26itm%3D353835870994%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWebMskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedPLXV3Ranker%26brand%3DDraper&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A3538358709946462e5d2d1d646319cad445426daccb9%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABIF5w9SIYA7LCsjjN3P6Yl26VztH0VKUH9PSWDJnasZbD1yCZJUhd3q2YXl6I7nNELSwP159v9id1K2rKKUMaxSnD5Ewcv37zy0jTcFdeOVgQ0HLAU52nZijlULp%252FMZODgA07A%252Bz62X4TUn2XlQoYQOrBxmdAa0tpDCrjQacdNQESLZnFD7DEFybYw1PJgX%252BEN6NyF80aJIYEmAkxa75XfQM%252Betmmo%252FCDiYrb5OrKhucusnfwfuIJMSm6OIaGOBjyvpx7a440LbrEpA%252BnaoVj2XyLo05R%252FI9Pbe9u51LH4rMxg6O1I79f8FQvJcfnPo7M5zHyPAtwSOginEruTJYlYeSJ%252BeRTbn%252Bk3XYkTCF1XudqwY2d9I2fGdyF16E08pphJQ%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=19026726125

 

tho out of all my tools i mostly use that kit and small ratchet

 

That's a good price, especially as it includes those adapters.

you can get this in halfords, dont pay for it just walk out with it as cant do jack bar ban you from the shop as theft needs to be above 250 quid to get plod involved these days.

 

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/spanners-and-wrenches/halfords-advanced-torque-wrench-model-60-488695.html

you can get this in halfords, dont pay for it just walk out with it as cant do jack bar ban you from the shop as theft needs to be above 250 quid to get plod involved these days.

 

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/spanners-and-wrenches/halfords-advanced-torque-wrench-model-60-488695.html

 

My security guard mate told me the same - says he'll let me know which Tesco he'll be guarding, so I can walk out with a new telly lol. I'd insist he disables all the security cameras first.

Edited April 30, 20224 yr by guerney

not looked at music software for years now just a money pit i bought nuendo 4 back in the day think it was £1400 and sold it for £300 as could upgrade it from 4 to the latest version but these days it would be worthless.

 

i still have a crack copy tho but you need a decent sound card a motu 2408mk3 goes for peanuts if it has the pci card tho i doubt the drivers will work on linux.

 

Motu still make great kit - yours looks a very good card:

 

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/motu-2408-mk3-24io-hd192

 

Fairly decent music production gear is cheaper than it used to be. Of course, USB/Firewire/Thunderbolt etc. cards have lower noise, situated away from the computer's RF. Even so, I use standalone field recorders operating on battery sometimes. Dynamic range is low on a lot of new cheapo audio interfaces, the SSL2 is very good for the price. Decent vocal mics are much cheaper than they used to be.

 

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ssl-2-plus

 

...but in the end the quality doesn't matter at all, if there is no pleasing melody, harmony and overall composition... which is why I tend to just make those, but mostly as a hobby to wind down, occasionally to order. All of my gear costs mostly pocket change, and will remain largely low cost until I actually make some sizeable dosh with music. But I don't gig, and streaming produces slivers of peanuts, but that's the way of the music biz: A great way to make a large fortune making music, is to start with a larger fortune.

Edited April 30, 20224 yr by guerney

this is 10 to 80 cheaper and comes with socket adaptors.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353835870994?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D238698%26meid%3D6462e5d2d1d646319cad445426daccb9%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D224081638243%26itm%3D353835870994%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv9PairwiseWebMskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedPLXV3Ranker%26brand%3DDraper&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A3538358709946462e5d2d1d646319cad445426daccb9%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABIF5w9SIYA7LCsjjN3P6Yl26VztH0VKUH9PSWDJnasZbD1yCZJUhd3q2YXl6I7nNELSwP159v9id1K2rKKUMaxSnD5Ewcv37zy0jTcFdeOVgQ0HLAU52nZijlULp%252FMZODgA07A%252Bz62X4TUn2XlQoYQOrBxmdAa0tpDCrjQacdNQESLZnFD7DEFybYw1PJgX%252BEN6NyF80aJIYEmAkxa75XfQM%252Betmmo%252FCDiYrb5OrKhucusnfwfuIJMSm6OIaGOBjyvpx7a440LbrEpA%252BnaoVj2XyLo05R%252FI9Pbe9u51LH4rMxg6O1I79f8FQvJcfnPo7M5zHyPAtwSOginEruTJYlYeSJ%252BeRTbn%252Bk3XYkTCF1XudqwY2d9I2fGdyF16E08pphJQ%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675&epid=19026726125

 

tho out of all my tools i mostly use that kit and small ratchet

 

I'll try tightening various bolts to remove that slight creaking noise by hand first, but I think I may have let it go on too long... I've applied threadlocker to all threads, but some thread(s) or other might be on it's/their way to knackerland... and I'll order that Draper torque wrench and the Makita socket set, unless someone suggests better product(s) at a reasonable price. Cheers!

Edited April 30, 20224 yr by guerney

Hi

This any good

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJWMTWSV2/jobsworth-pro-torque-wrench-set?gclid=Cj0KCQjwvLOTBhCJARIsACVldV1l9ex0ZaBml0sFp9G7kDf5o1YF6zcuOQAdAS_VcUPZ1Gf1tyRqrvQaAvmqEALw_wcB#TOJWMTWSV2

Hi

This any good

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJWMTWSV2/jobsworth-pro-torque-wrench-set?gclid=Cj0KCQjwvLOTBhCJARIsACVldV1l9ex0ZaBml0sFp9G7kDf5o1YF6zcuOQAdAS_VcUPZ1Gf1tyRqrvQaAvmqEALw_wcB#TOJWMTWSV2

 

That looks good for small torque, especially at that price. Apparently, carbon frame warranties can be invalidated if incorrect torque is applied to handlebar posts. Parts for carbon bikes seem to be more often clearly labelled with NM values. It's far less critical I think, for my aluminium bike and mostly steel Bafang motor: harder to damage by overtightening. Digital torque wrenches seem to offer a wider range. I'm wondering if this digital torque wrench would last longer than 5 minutes of use - 0.3N.m-10N.m, 0.9N.m-30N.m, 1.8N.m-60N.m, 3N.m-100N.m versions:

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002011888769.html?_randl_currency=GBP&_randl_shipto=GB&src=google&aff_fcid=

Edited April 30, 20224 yr by guerney

There are also digital adapters:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224415195004?hash=

 

...and Clarke's no-need-to-await-China-delivery UK version:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203332768093?hash=

One of their other Torqs is hex:

 

 

https://www.bikeparts.co.uk/products/m-part-torque-wrench

This is the set that I have.

This is the set that I have.

 

That Park Tool... tool... was a serious small torque contender, then I saw this video which tests accuracy against an Amazon Basics product I have never seen for sale - bear in mind that this guy of course, could be an Amazon paid product promotion puppet or Park Tool hater:

 

 

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by guerney

If I get a digital torque wrench, I assume that I won't have to periodically calibrate it - this tuber calibrates his using a digital luggage scale. I've got that exact luggage scale already, to weigh my bike:

 

 

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by guerney

Wow, this is the cheapest beam type torque wrench I've seen so far 0 to 203nm : £16.95. Doesn't need periodic recalibrating, but may be inaccurate. At that price, if it's useless as a torque wrench, it could be a useful purchase as just long spanner with swappable sockets.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0001K9T24/ref=

...and as usual it's cheaper on ebay, with free delivery:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292411252729?epid=5018291660&hash=

Edited May 1, 20224 yr by guerney

Does anyone have any recommendations for an inexpensive but good socket set in 3/8" for the Park Tool?

 

Halfords Professional range always get good reviews and look like value for money. Lifetime guarantee by all accounts. YMMV.

Don't buy anything 1/2" drive, used only on trucks nowadays, Most of my stuff is 1/4" or 3/8" and that covers almost everything for me. Can't remember the last time I used 1/2" drive anything.

If you can find a vintage Britool Torque Wrench at a reasonable price on ebay you will be buying a quality tool. Though I have to say even some of the cheap Chinese offerings are pretty accurate, yes, I have measured/compared some of them. Sad git that I am.

Edited May 2, 20224 yr by Max Tolerance