What the budget did for Cyclists...

flecc

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Perhaps I should take up drinking again, after an absence of 9 years; I might gain some Insight.


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I don't drink alcohol. :p

There are contentious aspects to the subject Allen, and I haven't the time to spell it out in full, or the inclination to engage in argument about it.

Clue: Instead of the fixations with what is being taught and what is being tested, how the teaching is carried out and the psychological effects of that on future behaviour should be considered.

Tests have such limited value that they should be the last thing considered. We've had many changes to the test and self-evidently they've made little or no difference.
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tangent

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My eldest daughter has been having driving lessons recently (BSM). One of the tricks the instructor taught her is to drive over the white line at junctions, stopping when the white line is level with your wing mirrors.

I would hope that examiners would fail some one for such a manoeuvre. It certainly scares me when I cycle past a side road and a car overshoots the white line like that.
 

NRG

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Well this is interesting, I trained to be a driving instructor and would like to hear more about this insight you have Flecc as I'm struggling to understand where you're coming from....
 

rog_london

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I'm glad you refused to be drawn (much) further on what is bound to be a contentious subject Flecc, because it has no business on here. Maybe in The Charging Post....

Rog.
 

allen-uk

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Well this is interesting, I trained to be a driving instructor and would like to hear more about this insight you have Flecc as I'm struggling to understand where you're coming from....
I'm thankful that you too are puzzled, NRG; I was beginning to think I was going barmy (alright, barmier).

Maybe the words of Donald Rumsfeld would help us here:

There are known knowns; there are things we know flecc knows.

We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things flecc does not know.

But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones flecc doesn't know he doesn't know.


Now, I do know (yea, me an' all) that Rumsfeld said something slightly different, but I'm sure if he'd been HERE that is what he WOULD have said...


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flecc

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I'm glad you refused to be drawn (much) further on what is bound to be a contentious subject Flecc, because it has no business on here. Maybe in The Charging Post....

Rog.
Exactly Rog, contentious and has no business here.

It's one of those things that needs to be explained completely with the 36 year history of outcomes, or explanation not attempted at all, and I don't want to get involved in writing the book or the argument.
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rog_london

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Exactly Rog, contentious and has no business here.

It's one of those things that needs to be explained completely with the 36 year history of outcomes, or explanation not attempted at all, and I don't want to get involved in writing the book or the argument.
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You'd certainly get an argument, and I expect as usual it might degenerate into something less dignified and more personal.....!

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allen-uk

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You'd certainly get an argument, and I expect as usual it might degenerate into something less dignified and more personal.....!

Rog.
Quite right Rog. We're just going to have to accept that this is all Part of Life's Great Mystery, revealed only to The Few, while the rest of us sit in the cave watching the shadows on the wall.


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lemmy

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To stick with the original post, it did nothing for and nothing against.

I was expecting a wheel tax, levied annually as a product of wheel diameter along the lines of a window tax.

Or a breath tax, where the cyclists CO2 exhalation is measured by a government official riding on the crossbar, on a sliding scale as it rises with effort.

I'm with Dorothy Parker's remark on why she quite liked president Calvin Coolidge, from a cyclists point of view, I quite like George Osborne because he has no ideas and is not a nuisance :)
 

allen-uk

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I quite like George Osborne because he has no ideas and is not a nuisance :)
Quite agree that he has no ideas, Lemmy. Not sure about the nuisance, though.


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JuicyBike

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He was fine running the Eton Tuck Shop... I bet...