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The problem is - in practice 'worker's protection' soon turns out to do the opposite - stifles enterprise and forces businesses to leave the area. Just look at all the places they've brought in minimum wages - this is always the result - less jobs for the poorest in society.

But with OG - he only sees black and white. There's no colour and no grey - it's either black or it's white. No subtlety - no nuance - no complexity - just all black and white. The man is a fool.

Your use of words like 'everything' reveal your stupidity. Nobody lies about everything. You're such a dork.

When you set a minimum wage you kill jobs. Plain and simple. It makes the politicians look good and pleases all the people on the left but the fact is you stop jobs coming to that area. You also kills opportunities for certain groups to get any work at all - Down's syndrome sufferers (if we...

For OG everything has to feed into his negative narrative. So no matter what happens OG will manage to find the negative angle and express that and only that. He has to or his whole world-view would break down. It's called confirmation bias.

This is the same bank of England who advised the chancellor that we'd need a £30b emergency budget. Mark Carney has subsequently dialled back on his gloom and doom.... From the Guardian: "Governor Carney said that various preparations taken since last November (including work at the ports and...

The one I dream of everybody is at peace with themselves and their world. Yeah - I know - like that's going to happen in my lifetime - fat chance.

In your case that should keep you silent for a very very very long time. Of course it won't. But we can all dream of a better world.

Flecc's had an attack of reasonableness! How can we possibly shout and scream at each other if we all take reasonable views on things? It would be hopeless! We need extreme views touted as facts to rile us up and keep us posting! Have you gone mad flecc??????

OK OG I will leave you in peace for now. Once in a while I just get totally fed up with your relentless posting of opinions as facts. You do it time and time AND TIME again. Over and over. Like a really REALLY annoying dripping tap - over and over there it is again - OG posting opinions as...

Oh you poor little victim. Let's all give OG a hug he feels bullied. There there.

Moi? Huh? You are the fecking Queen of fecking smug. Your posts drip with self-importance and unbridled self-belief. Try adding imho after every thought OG - it might cheer you up a bit.

Pussy.

Pot kettle black! You think you'd do any better?

Yes. Absolutely. 100%. It's called optimism. Something you have no idea about as you wallow in your cesspit of conspiracy-theory-based negativity.

So is it the Russians? (you've said that) - or Facebook? (you've said that) - or Cummings? (you've said that) - or the media? Who is in control OG? You?

Why not? If you're so sure you're right why not bet? You think this country will go to ruin - so bet that the stock market will go down - or that BT shares will drop disastrously - or any other indicies that would occur if the country 'failed disastrously' as you keep saying it will. But you...

Nobody is in control you blithering fool. Sheesh for somebody born before 1960 you do repeatedly say some really dumb things. Let me tell you how it works. Pour yourself a drink and take notes if needs be. 1) People think they have choice - they don't 2) Ideas appears in people's heads...

That won't wash with OG though. Nothing washes with that man. Our democracy is not a real democracy according to OG because we have first past the post - which tends to generate clear winners and governments that can get stuff done. But oh no - according to OG that's not real democracy.

Right.