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  1. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your argument is so totally bankrupt. Yes I gain from this - BUT SO DO THE POOR. You on the other hand want to hand money to the monopoly and the corrupt leaders. And you don't see it. You think I am the one being selfish. You have no idea.
  2. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh - 'Aid' programmes. Where we give money directly to the corrupt leaders of that country. Nice going Flecc, nice going. F**k the poor again huh?
  3. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    'Greater good'? Well. In my humble (not) opinion that is just total *******. So the Africa farmers are not part of your 'greater good'. Shame on you. Free trade is what has lifted millions of people out of poverty. And will continue to do so. Your attitude sucks.
  4. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What are you talking about? We are not planning to put tariffs on anybody. Especially not S. Africa who say they want a free trade agreement with us. Right now they can produce - AND DELIVER - perfectly good oranges (some might even say better) - FOR LESS MONEY. Why is this so f***ing hard...
  5. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You too huh? F**k the African farmers who can supply the same product for less. And you call yourself a socialist. Shame on you.
  6. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And f**k the farmers in Africa huh? Who can get us as good product for less?
  7. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What? Have you tatsed S. Africa oranges? I have. They seem perfectly good to me. We are paying extra for Spanish oranges whereas once we leave the EU we will get the same but cheaper from S. Africa. How on earth do you manage to twist the logic around any other way than that? Amazing...
  8. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We seem to be straying away from the main point of this thread.... Brexit. So here's an example of how come its going to be good to leave. Ready? OK. Here it is:
  9. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OK good.
  10. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think that is a distinct possibility. We may well need to put up with Corbyn and his economic illiterates for 5 even ten years before this latest generation learns the fundamental rule of life: Central planning does not make a thriving economy. Whats that old saying - if you're not a...
  11. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    All countries were formed by the winners. What are you going to do? Give America back to the Indians? Give Australia back to the aborigines?
  12. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Flec I came back to see if you'd commented on my thoughts on Socialism in Sweden. I can't find it anywhere so if you did and I didn't respond back I apologise.
  13. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    More progressive nonsense. Some of the 'all' you want to compromise and accommodate has only one thing in mind - your destruction. ISIS comes to mind. Hamas (if you're Israeli) - comes to mind. It's about winning. This is why you hate Trump. He is the first politician since Thatcher to...
  14. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Again. This lot do not like their opinions disturbed by facts. You will only upset them.
  15. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't confuse them with facts. This lot have been brainwashed with the usual progressive-liberal nonsense and believe all the problems in the middle east are due to Israel. Nothing will change their minds.
  16. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I have family in Sweden - since records began in 1890 Sweden has shown a consistently low ratio of inequality - in fact they have had an egalitarian society almost since time began - you can trace it back to 1000AD when Kings were elected (up until 1523 when Gustav Vasa became King). I've...
  17. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ordinary people benefit. Like with food. Food, once we get out of that ridiculous EU Ag Policy WILL BE CHEAPER - so will all sorts of other stuff. If you focus on the CONSUMER rather than the producer things become way more easy to understand. It's the consumer - the ordinary person in the...
  18. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    For starters - it would help if you could take a little more care when posting and put the end of quotation (") where it needs to be - you missed the end one out from the first quote and it makes life difficult (I added it in above - and put in a spare line to make things clear - no problem...
  19. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This on Labour's Brexit stance says much: "Most ironic in all this is the extent to which Corbyn’s Labour Party is at the heart of the pro-status-quo establishment. Poorer people in Britain could be so much better off if we were to remove external tariffs, either unilaterally, or via trade...
  20. OxygenJames

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Labour government that left a note last time saying 'there's no more money left'. 12?