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  1. flecc

    E-bike For a Child

    Presumably they are a passenger, no different from being in an approved child seat on the back. Although contributing to power, they are not in control. .
  2. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    I've long been of the same opinion but this new proposal seems to indicate the government are determined to get higher powered e-scooters in with EAPCs. Easy in the EU for the e-scooters since the two and three wheeled type approval law has Exemption J, meaning they are not considered to be...
  3. flecc

    Sevenoaks Electric Bikes

    No blue badge needed, L1 is a normal EU motor vehicle class, specified in the Two and Three Wheeled Motor Vehicle Type Approval Regulation 168/2013 . That also contains the exemption for EPACs from being considered motor vehicles. This EU regulation is wholly incorporated into UK law. Since it...
  4. flecc

    E-bike For a Child

    Among the kids on bikes in my London Borough estate and area I never see any girls at all, it's always boys. And its only ever been boys from ten upwards cadging brief rides on my pedelecs. So either only boys ride bikes here or all the parents are like you. .
  5. flecc

    How to Build a Bike That Will Last (Almost) Forever

    Years ago we had an annual pedelecs weekend meeting at Presteigne which included all sorts of events, including a road race and a hill climb. One of our members Tiberius designed his own bike for them, including modifying the frame by welding adaptations. He swept the board winning both the...
  6. flecc

    Sevenoaks Electric Bikes

    No need to look since bicycle based 1000 watt machines are already permitted. They are limited to the identical 15.5 mph and are L1e-A mopeds, informally known as Low Powered Mopeds. A minimum group Q driving licence and third party insurance are necessary, but they are necessary for any...
  7. flecc

    E-bike For a Child

    Why? They are out on ordinary bikes riding downhill at 20mph or more at times. How can pedal assistance to circa 15mph make any difference. Even less so for 11, 12 and 13 years olds that we ban, even though they and younger ride BMX in competition at high risk of injury. Either cycling is...
  8. flecc

    E-bike For a Child

    It's very silly and unnecessary, the restriction to being a bicycle means they are suitable for any age, just like any ordinary bicycle. Only Sweden in Europe has similar, but even more Nanny State with a 15 years minimum age. .
  9. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    I doubt that though, professional reviews alone would expose no change in the power and performance and consumers would react critically. There's no cost to the manufacturer to double the power by changing the controller where the existing motor can take the extra, and even a motor change could...
  10. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    Hard to say, this isn't what happened with the S-class High Speed pedelecs. They originally had the identical 250 watts rating but without any restriction could only just top 32 kph (20mph), far short of the permitted 45kph (28mph). So the authorities increased the rating to 500 watts to deal...
  11. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    Your vivid imagination was shared by Russia during the cold war. Outsiders with visas could drive or motorcycle into Russia, but pedal cycles were completely banned from entry since they needed no fuel so couldn't be tracked by any means. Not the only discrimination against bicycles. British...
  12. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    We used to have exactly what you want in the 1970s, and even a British Standard defining the permitted power of an EAPC. But all it did was enforce completely useless assisted bikes with a true 200 watts limit, totally killing the market before it could get off the ground then. So we scrapped...
  13. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    Agreed, the only thing that works is enforcement. Like we've done in London with the Congestion Charge and ULEZ charge. But it still only got 300,000 of our ten millions onto commuting saddles, most took to the cheap public transport instead, doubling the number of buses to 9,000. No, but...
  14. flecc

    Sevenoaks Electric Bikes

    Congratulations David, I wish you every success with this imaginative new venture, a big step forward from the traditional LBS or impersonal cycle chain store. .
  15. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    They don't have a proper plan as such. They are just trying to make best use what we have now in two ways, utilising the largely empty pavements better and persuading more people out of cars and onto two wheels of almost any kind for at least some of their journeys. There is another way tried...
  16. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    I agree, but I fear this is a long lost battle. We have many thousands of miles of road with some 45 million various vehicles jam packing them with traffic. We have many thousands of miles of pavements, over 90% empty all the time since so many appear to have lost the use of their legs and...
  17. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    Only if they needed no L plates, no two part driving licence, no third party insurance, no CBT and no helmet compulsion. It's the total of all those things that prevent popularising two wheel use widely enough. That is why people are illegally mopeding around on e-scooters. They'll happily...
  18. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    It's more than a cosmetic change though. At the outset of the hire e-scooter trial they said they they wanted to keep with their common 350 watts rating, necessary without pedal assistance, and combine them with assisted bicycles. So obviously that meant an increase in pedelec power and full...
  19. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    No I think they are making it quite clear that EAPC's are changing to 500 watts with throttle if this is adopted. They wont have more power than speed pedelecs though, since they already have the 500 watt limit, changed to that some years ago. That's for sure, though they might respond by...
  20. flecc

    DFT consultation on increase of 250W limit to 500W

    They've already taken care of that by saying at the outset that the e-scooters can have 350 watts for the trial, the same as in the USA and Europe. So I don't think power was the issue, as I said, it's the throttle that was the stumbling block since they wanted to include e-scooters into EAPC...