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Nope. Crank Drive come in various varieties. The cadence sensor type just needs the pedals turning and they go. No force required. You also get torque sensored ones, these will output a % of your effort from half upto around 4 times so yes effort here but! Both types can have throttles , add in...

@trex I understand that quality components will have a significant increase in end price and that should make for a longer lasting more reliable bike but maybe the base price is too high to start with? Peter But woosh is about as cheap as you can get premade. With renowned after sale...

A fine bromance. The first wedding bells on site?

You see the tiny little bag just behind the tiller, it had my battery in it. That was lipo as well so really cheap. But dangerous :eek:

Please be careful, liking two of my posts in the brexit thread, people will talk!

Tillson I have a knife sharpener, it has a very good suction base. That's what I would use for the job.:)

The whisper isn't one of the premium bikes either. Just solid value with nice touches. Unfortunately the old premium standard has turned into an expensive heap of bovine what's it's. The Ktm's are very nice but way over the top for general pottering. I think woosh new skoda, whisper, ford...

I have crank drive and 8 spd rear hub so the third option. For simplicity front hub rear gear. Is good as long as you never want to hot rod the motor.

I find disk brakes easier for wheel change. It just drops out and slots back in again. No need to free the v brakes up to let the tires through. Just never touch the brake lever when the wheel is out.

The 200 watt original power limit in the U.K. Was to let someone have the power equivalent assistance of a average fit man , with a speed limit that the nominal ave fit man could achieve. The pushing of limits by manufacturers means that the bbs01 can be set to 18 amps at 42 volts or just under...

The power test is if you run the motor at 250watts continually will it overheat and fail. If not it passes as a 250 watt minimum motor. So manufacturers rate the motor as 250w then set the controller to give upto 700 watts peak! The law is an ass, it says maximum of 250? The test is at least...

This Norwegian company http://www.kindernay.com/ is launching a 14spd gear hub that is lighter than the rohloff. With a wider range and swapping between bikes? Could I be having a new dream bike build?

Brown envelope 3rd trap on right.thanks

Garmin is the standard go to gps and you can get a new one for under £100. Me I have two Oregon 400 series with colour touch screen and nice maps for guidance. Also available second hand. Have a play on eBay for options.

Nor am I, just asking to avoid insults and wasteful exchanges. I'm not on Tillsons side, I just want you to improve your arguments. :)

Billy Bilslands is obligatory. To see Robert millars polka-dot jersey alone.

Derf did post 6620. Farage may be a right wing nut but like any pressure group he will be granted an audience, and as his politics are sufficiently close to trump having a meeting of like minded individuals is no surprise. Trump knows that May represents the government/finance industries. I...

The lab was out of control. The only guidance it had was from the back handed ball that went in front of Leighping. Therefore the owners made the situation worse:mad:. But I have it on excellent authority that he voted trumpxit so it's all his fault.:eek:

Err OG Derf. Tillson is the more reasoned one in the past few pages. Could you try to up your anti and refrain from slurs, holocaust type comments. Thanks

I have to think that whoosh current bargin bin components would have been seen as miraculous fantastic high performance components when I was a lad. Yes you can improve simply. But marathon plus tires are almost a standard improvement to any shop bought bike. The disk brakes are ok as disk...