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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is where I think you misread what can happen. These things strengthen the view of those opposed to Putin. These things strengthen the view of those who support Putin, taking them as evidence he is right. And since the start point is the great majority support Putin, the outcome is...
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As my posts clearly explain, recognition of Russia's need regarding land access to the Crimea that he'd taken control of could very easily have stopped all the subsequent undesirable events and ended the Donbass civil war as a bonus. Neither the West nor Russia or either of the two local sides...
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That would be good, but I fear it's day dreaming. Even some western assessments give Putin 65 to 70% support among the population and half the population regret the passing of communism. Statista Currently there's two way opinion on this, the clearly anti Putin Russian elements saying his...
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed, and why I remarked in a recent post that almost 70 year old Putin won't be around much longer. The last person I saw with that changed facial appearance was dead within months. .
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Early to mid 19th century though. .
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm afraid my excellent long term memory doesn't extend to the 16th century. I'm only familiar with the rhapsody of that latter name by Czech composer Leoš Janáček, his most famous work. .
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course I do, I appear to be the only one in here who wanted to stop any chance of the war happening. Most of you seem determinedly wanting to risk WW3 and its potentially horrifying consequences I'm certainly the only one in here who knows that the basis of this war was created by the USA...
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's now, but as said: "The longer the struggle goes on, the more the Russian Duma and people will come round to his (Putin's) view that Ukraine and the West are the threat." .
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This isn't destroying the Russian war machine, it's strengthening Russian resolve. I repeat: "The longer the struggle goes on, the more the Russian Duma and people will come round to his (Putin's) view that Ukraine and the West are the threat." .
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I did listen to Putin's speech, but its immaterial to my argument. This war was emphatically avoidable at this time and it is only the imminent present we can plan for when others eventual wishes are uncertain. If the above quotation was true there wouldn't have been any chance of such a long...
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you prefer to unnecessarily kill and maim huge numbers out of your false sense of pride, when none of that need have happened. The Ukraine's attitude is "dog in the manger". The dry desert like Crimea is no use to them and their dominant agriculture. Donbass is no use to them because the...
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ukraine wasn't making any links shortly after the millennium, they were happy with their position in their friendly situation with Russia, until the CIA came in and destabilised the country by persuading the population that they'd be much better off in the EU. They did the same in Georgia...
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The circumstances are entirely different. We all saw how Putin was holding back for what seemed ages, leaving the West guessing why. It was clear he was trying to assess what the reaction to his invading would be, clearly nervous about it not being too great, such as a NATO response. In...
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Contrary to what so many seem to believe, he's neither daft nor mad. He would happily accept what he actually needed handed to him on a plate without effort or loss, knowing he could still come back later with aggression for more if he felt it became necessary. Having received that...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is completely untrue, as I've shown Ukraine didn't have to accept all Putin's demands, only what he needed most, a tiny amount at no cost which wasn't impossible for more sensible Ukrainians to accept instead of probable annihilation of their country. Nor would the alternative I proposed...
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    See and ignore. Their's is a long standing religion based alliance so such things as who is leading Russia is immaterial. Nation and faith over personalities. .
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Blinkered and short sighted, what on earth is the point? Following the course I advised above and previously would have resulted in no current war, with Ukraine losing nothing it hadn't already lost or never had. The sort of foolishness you express above is resulting in death and maiming on a...
  18. flecc

    Who remembers Anotherkiwi ?

    Agreed on that crackpot thread which I also ignore. It too should be in The Charging Post forum. I think the word Cycling in the title was just to sneak it into the main forum. .
  19. flecc

    Who remembers Anotherkiwi ?

    I'll never understand why people protest at such threads in an unrelated forum when all they need do is ignore them. Such off subject forums exist in other specialist websites simply for the valuable traffic they generate. This pedelec site often goes very dead, especially out of business...
  20. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I've maintained all along that Ukraine's aggressive posturing, especially that of the president, has been a mistake and that there need not have been any conflict. Wholly Russian Donbass is of no use to Ukraine. Nor is Crimea which as a desert the agricultural Ukrainians have never occupied...