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But they can sue,maybe this is what they threatened to do.

You could change the cassette from a 11 up to a say a 12-26 that would make your top gear more suited.

How do you rate the rate the Giant road E and are there any minus points.

We are not anti Kalkhoff,if they still built reliable fantastic bikes like when they used the Panasonic and Bosch motors nobody would be complaining. The latest models weigh a ton and have a motor that has PROVEN unreliability.I have ridden Kalkhoffs since 2011 but never again.

The 2017 Giant road E+1 is now £3199 on the Giant website,i can`t see any changes from the previous model.

Always best to test ride because what suits someone won`t always suit everyone,sounds like you have found the one for you.

How do you find the yamaha motor at around 26mph on level road,are you cruising or is it a big effort ?

Wisper always seem to have happy customers,they must be doing something right.

The best method because it costs the least,lets hope Yamaha don`t change the software because it doesn`t work on Bosch as i have tried it on the performance line and CX motors.

What derestriction system do you use.

I don`t own a Yamaha motor i am quoting from test reports.Is your bike a 2015 or 16 version.

From all the reading i have done on the Yamaha motor it seems that it doesn`t respond well to tuning because it is cadence sensitive.The faster you pedal the more the power falls off. It was designed this way for climbing power at lower cadences up to the cut-off speed of 15.5 mph.The cadence...

If you put a magnet on the crank arm and fit the speedo pickup on the frame you will have full deristriction,other than that a Badass dongle will work up to 50 km-h but they are expensive. There are videos online for both options.

Have you tried the Bosch CX motor,it has a lot of power that builds the faster you go.There is a new Shimano motor out for 2017 that is more advanced from previous types that looks good.It will be in the dealers october this year.

This shows that they must be on here reading all the posts but never contributing or helping.

It looks like the magnet on the crank arm trick only works on the Yamaha motors.

The new software they put in the replacement motors makes them sluggish and the feeling of assistance is poor. I would say this is to protect the internals and increase reliability.

I bought a Kalkhoff integrale when they first came for sale at the end of 2015. Firstly they are very heavy (27kg) and the power has been downgraded to save the motors so i wasn`t impressed. The motor was making noises straight away and a new motor was fitted after two weeks so i sold it on...

I`ll second that it has to be Bosch or Yamaha because performance is matched to reliability unlike impulse that has performance with poor reliability.One thing i do miss though is the large batteries that Kalkhoff and Focus have.

I have had a e-mail today direct from Giant bicycles and it says that the new Yamaha PW-X motor will not be fitted to the 2017 Giant road E+ but will be in the 2018 year model. That says to me that changes from 16 to 17 year models will be minimal.I looked into it because it is probably better...