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Thanks for sharing: that really is a very good article and encapsulates much, if not all, of what I think as well, albeit I have a little more optimism. Quite what I base that on I just don't know but for sure we need to change, attitudes more than anything else and a good dose of realism won't...

Sorry, but that's simply not true, yes we did join the EU but even you have to admit that it has changed, out of all recognition to where it was 40 years ago? Perhaps because of that we, the UK, don't feel as comfortable, most certainly not with the thought of a USE. So, no we are not the EU...

This is perhaps the crux of the matter? We are not the EU and truth be told have never really bought into its aims and ambitions which is why we are at the point we are - wanting out. Sorry leaving.

I'm not so sure that I am starting to realise that we have no cards to play. There are times when it seems like a loaded casino with just the one high-roller in the place. But, that's not the place I've walked into, or at least that was never my intention and like you say, we can walk away! Once...

Let me try and answer that. We, that's the UK, are moving on to pastures new and there is a lot to do and prepare for. Why can't we talk about trade and such in parallel? One step at a time will take forever how one-sided is that? No one is expecting the EU to sign a 'blank-cheque' but neither...

Of course we need to settle our bills and have said we will, Englishman and his word. But, when we move house we don't start looking for the new home and the job that goes with the need to move after we have settled all outstanding matters with the previous one? I appreciate that I won't get my...

To be straight it was the UK people that said we were leaving the EU. Quite why there is still so much posturing going on is more an EU thing but it's only posturing and there are chinks of light coming through and once the notion that there might be a change in Government and a reversal of the...

I can vaguely remember a VAT scam with lorries driving around the EU collecting VAT rebates or whatever it was. The point being that if necessary cars and such will do much the same, fairly easily done for a multi-national manufacturer and a cigarette smuggler.

A good story and encapsulates your point very well. Indeed, similar stories abound all around the world, none more so than just across the water in Ireland. One might say that time is a good healer but, not so it seems. Your old guy has obviously moved on, literally. He saw and experienced...

And therein the reason why the ability to change such things should not be on a whim and without thought. That said, recent politics, starting in Scotland with the Yes vote do show that it is possible to galvanise a section of the population and bring change much closer. Only to awaken the...

You can make such things say what you want: For every 100 people, 41 of them voted and of those 81% voted Yes. That means you could say 33 people (81%) voted for Independence, or 33% voted for Independence – 67% wanted to remain a part of Spain

This is interesting and it now seems obvious, to me, that we have a situation where passion meets the cold hard light of day. Wars have been fought over less and the reality is that is will only ever be resolved by a face to face meeting. Be that in a pub or at some higher level is a mute point...

There I was, thinking that under EU rules Chedder cheese could only be made in Chedder. Let me add to that having read this http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/irish-cheddar-cheese-amongst-brexits-first-victims-35610371.html Good reason to get behind the UK with its...

Sorry Zlatan but now I too do think you have gone too far. Currently, Catalan is an integral part of Spain, same as Scotland is a part of the UK. By all means the people's of either should be able to question whether or not they wish to remain a part of the higher level. But, they have to abide...

You bet there are - in fact it seems the same wherever I go in the world and no more so than on the other thread.

Whilst agreeing with much of what you say the reality of this is far more complicated than simply declaring independence because that is what the people want or have voted for. This is very similar to Brexit - there have to be negotiations with regard to what might loosely be called common...

Perhaps OG and yourself would like to rewrite it?

This is probably as telling http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/840343/Waterstones-business-rates-Amazon-tax-booksellers Sorry about bringing the Express to the table. For those of us operating in a city centre we really do feel the inequalities of such taxation.

Interesting, and one might wonder what would happen in the UK/Scotland situation had the UK Government refused IndyRef1?

This is precisely the UK/Scottish position albeit with one significant difference. The Scots have to ask the permission of the UK Government to hold a referendum. Did so of course and it was approved, last time. Other than that point I think that Zlatan has it right on all counts.