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  1. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With finite resources? the pace of vaccination has slowed through shortages The Government blamed the supplier The Supplier responded, we supplied what you ordered on the dates you specified So who do you believe?
  2. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Actually My post highlighted there is no evidence available to support the notion that the virus is keeping the infection rates and hospitalisations down The data I posted was to do the the presence of antibodies over a given time on this post...
  3. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No I did not, I posted the actual test information charts, clearly you don't bother to read my posts
  4. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Really? going from a single month between jabs to three doesn't incur a two months delay?
  5. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Exploding Heads@Exploding_Heads "I'm worried about this Brazilian Covid." "Yes, Colin. It's meant to be strong." It's typical Brazil. You think England have got a good thing going, then the Brazilians waltz over here and blow our British virus out of the water." :D
  6. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The latest evidence I posted proved that the opinion your favourite sources got it wrong, it wasn't based on evidence any more than yours is
  7. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If they obey the lockdown the Vaccine hasn't got a job to do has it? The date that all the population is vaccinated is most definitely not the same there will be a two months difference. Ask yourself this, why has Sunak announced a £1.65 Billion boost to the vaccination program? Is it that...
  8. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "V = the number of people given 84 to 94% protection from serious illness and hospitalisation per day." You do realise that there is no scientific proof of that statement, don't you? And it most likely that protection will not last till their second jab? Render it an illusion. Further what is...
  9. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here is yet another example of incompetence passed off as glorious pro active action Rishi Sunak unveils £1.65bn boost for Covid-19 vaccine rollout ahead of Budget We have to ask why more cash is needed now? why wasn't it more carefully costed and planned? Surely they knew how many would need it...
  10. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As usual you are talking nonsense and again as usual simply mouthing right wing propaganda against which real facts can not penetrate. The lockdown stops the virus, even the government itself has indicated that it affects the most people "Your second jab is some other person’s first and it may...
  11. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Let me put this case forward The number vaccinated so far have not yet really impacted the cases numbers What has and indeed is only likely to is the Lockdown It follows that they should have stuck to the lockdown as the main defence, and given the vaccines systematically at the correct...
  12. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you? I'm not!
  13. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's 7 weeks for us next Tuesday, I am making the assumption that unless we get the second one before week 12, theoretically I should be asking for this second shot to be regarded as a first to restart the process, and ask for the third to be within the four weeks timescale. This whole...
  14. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Results of two shots Pfizer vaccine
  15. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    To control the the herd all you need is 100-percent bullcrap:D
  16. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Lets say it's far better than an Ouija board, but not by a convincing enough margin to be really reliable. Let's reduce that "Dunno" :cool: (and neither does anyone else)
  17. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is a worry is that there are liable to be some recipients of the warning notice to say, "well if I still can't go out after having the second jab, what's the point of having it? I'll just wait for the lockdown to end." The author of the document should have stressed the need to have that...
  18. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    First, welcome back! second Mt wife just received a long over due notice "Government guidance for clinically vulnerable people" Which contains a line that demonstrates their lack of faith in the efficiency of vaccines to protect her. "Even if they have had both vaccination doses, they should...
  19. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And which one world would that be?
  20. oldgroaner

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The most expensive Christmas present ever And of course the Tory fans will claim that the people are to blame, they would carry on with Christmas as usual anyway. The problem with that is it didn't work out that way in the EU from the figures Now how can that be?