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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And why shouldnt it be post leaving. Trading is mutually beneficial. EU tie political affiliation to that trade but that doesnt have to be case. A week after leaving trade would be back. We have been scared into accepting the EU's politics, well some have, because they know no better. Remainers...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    All the polls said that in first ref. They are useless and used as a tool to persuade floting voters rather than a true indication. Just speak to people, look on here. Its proven what people say and how they vote often show no relation to each other. Wicki No, I, ve said on a number of occasions...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And in mean time we live in limbo and indecision creating more damage to economy which will be attributed to leaving and leavers. Not sure why we will be in a better position post ref2 or GE. We wont be. We, ll be in same position and probably with a stronger more right wing government. My...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Every eventually covered. You should be on front in Blackpool telling fortunes, hang on a minute, I thought I recognised your ugly mush.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG's balls have let him down. They will vote against no deal tomorrow.. I, m begining to think and in a way hope they go for ref2. Suspect there will be another shock. Leave will win again. Then where are we... Cant leave under no deal. (they, ve promised that, they will just firm it up tomorrow...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its not conceit, its contempt for you.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Shut up Tom. I havent had to leave because of vile posts and reincarnate myself as another old fool as you have.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its not complicated OG. Had country showed anything approaching a united approach EU would have relented and offered better terms. As it is they know we are divided and that half country are scared witless about a no deal. Remainers have played right into EU hands. Our stance throughout should...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ll drive you in my last Porsche.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is a degree of honesty though... If deal doesnt get through we, ll be remaining. Its quite ridiculous that even at this late stage we do not actually know. Its the unknown doing the damage. Either way economy will bounce back when we do have an answer.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ll pay..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Euthanasia for old gits.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With Labour in state they are would it make any difference.?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wish you were but you obviously arent. Just to clarify, I dont own any Porsches or a Porsche. It was a figure of speech. If you actually read my posts you, d know the car I drive.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I said argumentitive not vile,which is all OT is. But OK you and OG come second and third behind him.Hardly a glorious stance by your own admission.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Oh ofcourse, we all forgot what a great sense of humour you have..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As usual you recall that you wish to recall. You talk utter bo!! ox is what you should recall. I, ve said that a few times.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well how on earth can you blame leavers when we havent left and are unlikely to do so because of the hate campaign endorsed and utilised by remainers typified by you. Mays deal is the best deal on offer because of remainers. Our best option now is no deal, calling EUs bluff and sorting the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thats been issue from very start. Cameron offerered leave as an appeasement and not a realistic possibility he or any of his government had done any preperation for. I doubt they had done any kind of feasibility study yet public were expected to know what they had voted for. It all backfired...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As SAF used to say of Roy Keane... You could start an argument in an empty house... If the cap fits Flecc... You arent far behind OG.. Perhaps an objective assessment might help. Count the folk OG and your dear self have argued with on here. I, d bet my last Porsche you two have argued with at...