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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Now you're starting to sound like Donald Rumsfeld - Tom
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This 'we' you mention......who would that be? Having read so much of your opinion and views previously, I suspect you mean 'I' or, if a wider group, the British elite, their political wing and their brainwashed supporters. The common man - the vast majority of the UK population - is unlikely...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You're doing it again, aren't you? For you, like all tories, it's all about money whereas for 27 other nations, the benefits of belonging to a large trading bloc outweigh any disadvantages. The EU, of course, is far more than simply a trading bloc and will ultimately become the United States...
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Dickens wrote fiction - I try to stick to the facts in this thread but you're correct in your assertion that Dickens had a much nicer style of prose than me. Tom
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, you're just rank....seriously of the J Arthur variety! Tom
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Don't rush! Tom
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is an example of 'The Curate's Egg' tale to put it politely....in the manner of the curate! Tom
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Really! It's all about money with you, isn't it? No Labour government has ever messed up the public finances like your tory scum has every time they have been elected. Read history, rather than just listen to and read the propaganda the establishment that you seem to worship put out...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good god OG! That kind of anarchistic approach would render the UK as like one of those foreign countries like Iceland which just does things that are simply not British.........oh, hang on! Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes Peter, there are many. Just for starters, I agree with everything Nye Bevan had to say, particularly about people like you, dyed-in-the-wool tories with no compassion for other human beings. Today, the same type of creatures Bevan railed against still exist and are hell-bent on...
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Hammers fans are wrong in the first three words of line1 because Watford are a formidable side again this season. They currently stand 5 points away from a top-four spot in the PL. Tom
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Having just read the Wiki information on this creature, I am not at all surprised that you see him as some kind of hero. I recommend others read up on his history. Tom
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What part does the England and Wales Cricket Board play in these matters?:confused: Tom
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    1) Untrue at this moment except in Mrs May's note to her propaganda office. 2) We lied - the EU believe it is much more. 3) Not yet up for discussion. Tom
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is exactly that kind of view shared by those who deny the holocaust of the 1940s and the one currently being perpetrated by Israel on the Palestinian people. You really are entrenched in your tory views to such an extent that I now believe you are beyond help. Tom
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With regard to my post #23928, Peter Stefanovic had this to say about the subject matter: Tom
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Were you part of a SWAT crew.......or was it TWAT? Tom
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ? Tom
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't know how much soldiering you did in Germany but I was there for some time in 1994, both west Germany and the former eastern part. Most people are familiar with the wall coming down in 1989 but not many will know that in 1994, the Russians were still there, flying the Russian flag over...
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't think so. Some professional help in altering your entire politico-psychological reasoning to something a little more caring would be a start. Tom