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It bothers me when I hear people express views that major disasters such as Grenfell Tower should not be politicised. Invariably, such views come from tory supporters hoping somehow that if the voices of dissent are silenced, then they will not have to face up to their part in the political...

Your repeated childish responses reveal much about you, 'Woosh', none of it any good. Perhaps you should leave political discussion to the grown-ups. Please note: you call this a debate. It is not a debate; it is an internet forum allowing people to express their honest opinions. Debates...

Blimey! This call from the SMMT is a bit late in the day. Perhaps it just took a long time for the penny to drop; after all, car salesmen aren't noted as being the brightest members of society. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40332912 I think there is more than a little self-interest in...

Are you suggesting by that comment that those tenants actually control the purse strings? You come across repeatedly as if you are actually one of the few in the UK, rather than one of the proletariat. That might explain your apparent intolerance bordering on hatred of those who seek to...

I sincerely admire your tenacity in always attempting to defend the indefensible. Tom

While tory government and tory councils are not prepared to expend taxpayers' money on the provision and maintenance of of decent homes for the underprivileged, even ignoring the best available product information as seen here.......... ........I am pretty sure all the royal residences are...

It has turned out that after all his bluff and bluster, David Davis has simply turned up and demonstrated that while he can talk the talk, he certainly can't walk the walk! Just another liar, fraud and charlatan! In other words, a tory. Tom

I understand your point, 'the_killjoy', and I confess it could be construed as being a little tenuous in the context of the thread. Perhaps I allowed myself to get a little carried away by the fact that yet again in our modern history, we have a tory government which has singularly failed to...

Further to post #117, There remains a fault in the arithmetic of the fatality numbers at Grenfell Tower. The word on the street is that there will be about 300 dead so the drip-fed figures issued so far must be way out. If there were hundreds more survivors than we have been given to...

UK - laughing stock! Ok, this rather sums up day1 of our negotiating posture: I'll bet nobody thought it could get any more embarrassing! Tom

It seems that 'Brexit' talks have got underway but I don't expect to learn anything for some time. Sadly, while those talks go on elsewhere, here in the UK we have been subjected to another apparently 'lone-wolf' terrorist attack in London. This time, the perpetrator is a white man, British as...

Almost certainly, most of the readership of these pages are too young to have any memory of this wonderful socialist. He was a major part of the post-war Attlee government which I consider to be the best government the country has ever had. Clearly, even now in this second decade of the 21st...

As some reader may have noticed, I don't particularly care for the tory party and their divisive and inhumane policies. Leaving that aside for the moment, here is the reason why the PM will be ousted by her own party in the not too distant future: Tom

Does anyone know how these less than vast sums of taxpayers' money earmarked for the victims of Grenfell Tower will be distributed? I am troubled by the fact that there is a likelihood that some families will have been completely wiped out when the recovery operation is finally completed. I...

Really! Well, I'm dumbstruck to read that as I had you figured as the most prolific apologist for right-wing extremism in the thread. Obviously I don't count trolls! Tom

The woman doing an impression, a very poor impression, of a Prime Minister, unable to get her act together on any major issue with which she is confronted, just as she was as Home Secretary, is depicted perfectly here by Frankie Boyle: Tom

Neatly encapsulated by someone: Tom

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Should anyone be interested in the speech from Brighton yesterday, entirely relevant to the Grenfell tragedy, it is here: vacuum-of-accountability Tom

'Danidl', if only it were as simple as you suggest! Firstly, I don't accept for a moment that the achievements gained in NI have been the result purely of sensible discussion and negotiation. Without the armed struggle, there would never have been any meaningful discussions. I can think of...