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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is a big element but a lot of what has gone on before could be passed off as political hyperbole, something all politicians are guilty of on a regular basis. Where this differs is in its scale and intent particularly with the inherent racism in much of the language used by the prime movers...
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's a piece of news that has escaped me but I can understand that there may well have been offences committed in the kind of lie-laden presentation promulgated by the pro-'Brexit' brigade. From the outset, I have believed that the kind of descriptive language used by Farage, Johnson and...
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your post is so stupidly juvenile Tillson that it doesn't really warrant a response but It further illustrates your utter lack of comprehension about what is going on. Either that or you are so deeply in denial that you are removed completely from reality. For the benefit of anyone who thinks...
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This is how the tory political machine creates racial bitterness and hatred: Exaggeration? No, not at all. This is exactly how a propaganda strategy works. Tom
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Birds Eye and Walker's prices going up as a direct result of the 'Brexit'-weakened pound. Enjoy Christmas folks as things will quickly deteriorate over the next few months. Tom
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not sure she's got too many fans in the parliamentary party so, if she makes a slip or takes a wrong turn, I think she'll be toast! Tom
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think comments about fascism are ridiculous....over the top? Maybe you should think again! Is this proof that UK politics is shifting towards Nazism? Or is it merely proof that the Daily Mail never stopped supporting that hate-filled ideology? Tom
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ashcroft is a tax exile who promised he would alter his domicile when he was chairman of the tory party and his tax status was discovered. He never did, so besides being a tax cheat, he showed himself to be a liar too. I would not believe anything this piece of scum said and I would imagine...
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Always the pragmatic one Dave! Mere bumps in the road over which our fiery chariots will race towards the glory that will be ours!:D Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Date Monday 27th March 2017 Dear EU, As you should now be aware, from receipt of our formal notification that we have initiated our exit from the EU under Article 50 provisions, when can we meet to begin negotiations? Dear UK, Any time you like. Dear EU, Shall we say 0900hrs tomorrow morning...
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm worried that any kind of deal, even a lousy deal, will be proclaimed by the tory media wing as the best deal in town and a real achievement. That's the kind of spin they do all the time - 'better for business, better for the economy and better for Britain!' Invariably, that is always a...
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I note Tillson has annotated your piece as 'funny'. Strangely, I don't see anything funny about it, indeed, I thing it's a devastatingly accurate summary of where we are with this 'Brexit' nonsense. Another day passes since the referendum and still, not one of the rabble-rousing spokespersons...
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Obviously, at least to me, that is a rhetorical question but I'm thinking, to see if I can give you an answer....... Nope, I can't think why he should take umbrage but it fits nicely with my speculation that these fascist and racist types are in denial but of course, that's just speculation...
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Speculating.....that's all, just speculating - that there are tens of thousands of Daily Mail readers in the 'Brexit' camp so it's worth reminding people why I believe that the majority, the vast majority, of their ilk hold fascist and racist views. What has a tabloid newspaper, and I'm being...
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The reason the tories don't want their appalling Brexit shambles exposed to scrutiny or democratic approval is because they want to run the whole show exclusively for the benefit of their wealthy backers, free from public or parliamentary scrutiny and Ukippers are so tied into their corrosive...
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry Dave, that spoils it for me. I can't think of any ways in which EU-wide legislation has harmed the UK interest. On the contrary, I think many people in this country have benefitted immensely from laws and rules created and agreed by the EU parliament for the benefit of all. I also...
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The resignation letter from Stephen Phillips to his constituency party chairman has been made public and it makes interesting reading. Here it is: http://i2.wp.com/voxpoliticalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/161105-Stephen-Phillips-resignation-letter1.png Tom
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As parliament seems divided across party lines on this issue, if ever there were a need for a general election extraordinarily, this 'Brexit' subject is probably the best reason possible for calling an election out of the scheduled time. That would then force the issue. cause the parties to...
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    From memory, that is the only intelligent and decent thing you have ever contributed. If only you could be consistent and apply that kind of logic in other areas! Tom
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel 'gray' with such stupid remarks. Forgive me if I have this wrong but you seem to be suggesting that we are pretty wonderful as a country in that we dispense vast fortunes in foreign aid. Do you have any idea where we send money? Have you ever...