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  1. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If this were to do with a product, the ASA would step in straight away. As it is, I think there may be grounds for police to examine the matter as it could easily be construed that there is an incitement to violence in the form of words used. Unfortunately, the brainwashed 'Brexidiots' will...
  2. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, we should have known better and all gone out to vote. Complacency is a very dangerous thing and we should never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers! Tom
  3. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I love this piece from AAV, a man who has a remarkable insight into British politics and a delightful way of lampooning some of the ridiculous and nonsensical goings-on we sometimes only hear about after the stories have been sanitised and spun by party officials or their media departments...
  4. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There isn't much I watch on Conservative Party TV so I missed 'Newsnight' yesterday. Evidently the station caved in and acceded to the demand by tory MP and alleged parliamentary expenses cheat, Andrew Rosindell, that BBC1 should reinstate the playing of 'God save the Queen' at the end of the...
  5. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It's wasted on the 'Brexidiots', 'derf'. The whole 'Brexit' premise is a classic case of the blind leading the blind. Tom
  6. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We should because they are human beings whom we displaced while kidding ourselves we have a 'special relationship' with the USA, as a result of which we willingly bombed their countries indiscriminately. That Britain has accepted fewer migrants than the other major European nations is shameful...
  7. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I do wish this rain would stop as I'd like to get out and walk! Meanwhile, another tory does this 'moral stance' thing and steps down as MP......carefully hedging his bets by failing to be entirely specific about his reason. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37872899 Tom
  8. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Amidst all the posturing from politicians and pillocks, (yes, I know they are usually one and the same), a little levity from 'The Canary': http://www.thecanary.co/2016/11/04/proposed-civil-war-blocked-eu-health-safety-laws/ Tom
  9. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ok, why don't you welcome them in? Tom
  10. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It gets worse! This is such a staggering piece of "democracy is dictatorship" revisionism that it wouldn't have looked out of place alongside George Orwell's terrifying revisionist slogans "war is peace", "freedom is slavery", and "ignorance is strength". Tom
  11. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good choice of expression, I think, 'Croxden'. Every time I see that shyster, Farage, on TV, I'm reminded of a Mississippi riverboat gambler from the old Hollywood movies. Tom
  12. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Blithely ignoring the authority of parliament and the High Court - that says enough about your views on parliamentary democracy, sovereignty and mob rule.....sorry! - law and order. You are right though about other nations laughing at Britain - we have become a laughing stock, particularly when...
  13. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    These words from Gina Miller nail the problem that 'Brexiters' refuse to see: Speaking after the High Court announced its verdict, Ms Miller told the BBC the case was about scrutinising the details of Brexit, such as "how we leave, how they're going to negotiate, the directions of travel the...
  14. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    With you 100% 'derf'! Tom
  15. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A lot of people made light of the Jo Cox murder and refused to believe it had anything to do with the lunatic ravings of the 'Brexit' originators. The same people threw scorn on the notion that we were witnessing the rise of fascism once again in Britain, even denying the evidence of their...
  16. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, you're ok 'kiwi'; you don't display any symptoms of psychopathy. Tom
  17. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you trying to tell me these elected public servants have no moral commitment to their constituents and to the nation as a whole? I'm shocked! Surely we can rely on these MPs to act in the best interests of the UK, both now and in the future, regardless of personal preference?o_O Tom
  18. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This seems to sum up the 'Brexit' position right at this moment: Tom
  19. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So it would seem but the rich, royalty, the aristocracy, the tory party and their brainwashed supporters are all terrified by democracy lest the common people rise up against them and strip them of their ill-gotten wealth. That is why they need to control the masses by feeding them only such...
  20. oldtom

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The problem with the people to whom you take exception Dave is that they don't understand the meaning of the word 'racism' - they think they do but they don't! Just because someone passes the time of day with a black bloke at work or down the pub doesn't mean that person isn't racist but to...