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How noisy are Bosch motors then? My Tonaro is silent, no noise at all.

I am afraid that we are all starting to feed the Troll

What do you mean that you are not convinced? Red lights are not optional

Thank you JUST joined Stu. We have discussed this ad infinitum. Troll somewhere else

I had to laugh when I saw that bag looking so innocent but with a wire poking out. I can just imagine a suspicious Customs officer calling the Army who would promptly blow it to bits!

Exactly what is the point of these sensors? Both my Tonaro and Woosh have magnet rings and throttles. I can give exactly the amount of assistance that I want using the throttle. After all, it is not as though the motor is 50 bhp

Thanks everybody. My father had some and he paid a lot for them, but was never really happy. Now that my children tell me I am deaf (Who?, me, deaf? just stop mumbling) and so many of my friends wear them, I think that it is time to try them. Mike

Has anybody got these? I can go the NHS route and get them for free, or pay up to £2,000 at Specsavers. Are private ones really better than NHS?

Seeing that it is only going around the lawn, you don't need a battery, just a long mains lead!

Traffic on the left hand side, 'Bus Stop' written on the road? It is London. CWAH, get ready to get arrested again!

This is the direction that development needs to go, improving things that are known weaknesses rather than yet another whizz-kid designer trying to push bizarre looking frames, smart phone technology etc. It sounds to me that these designers live and work in well heated, closeted city offices...

Yet!

Personally I cannot see the need for all this extra electronics. The function they provide is very limited and only of interest to a minority. "Build in electronics, build in potential problems." Our bikes are a compromise of the least possible power to enable their use without need of legal...

Frankly it is not a good idea at all. How waterproof are phones, and just how easily snatched off whilst passing some yobbo? (I imagine if that occurred, the bike would stop)

No papers, No charger, brand new poster. Many responsible shops would not touch this with a barge pole.

Strange thing is that when riding in Belgium, I leave the mirror on the right hand side. Seems to work just fine, probably because unlike the 'Swift glance over shoulder' you can constantly monitor traffic far astern.

How thick are those spokes?

Marxist pullover= Red light jumper

And I have disabled my pedelec and only use throttle! Don't miss the pedelec at all.

So does my Enduro