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Think a lot of folk decided on wrong sport when they bought Pedelecs.. Should have gone sky diving or BASE jumping... I,m sure this is a Pedelec forum ....ahwell must be wrong.. Its like taking up knitting and posting pictures of drag bikes...rather a lot of frustrated people aren't there..??

Yes at moment...lets hope it lasts !!! Yes that's snow this morning...quite diverse I suppose.. Took this on my Kodak box brownie! ( Don't worry it,s from before you were born)

We all know full well where the derestricted Cyclo will be used. Surprisingly,I,m not against Cyclo selling bikes like this, or folk buying them or even helpful posters advising how to derestrict them but this is a Pedelec forum , we all know full well what that means in the eyes of the law,and...

For a start pedelecs could easily be banned from country parks etc.. That would have dire consequences on e mtb sales. The position of freedom we enjoy both on road and off it should be protected at all costs.That starts on here. ( not for a moment suggesting Dave above is doing otherwise)

Good post and points well made. Totally agree. Your stand point is a responsible one, hopefully giving reassurance to policy makers industry can police itself. ???

And when it does happen Dave you don't think it will have repercussions on your business ?

I guess that means you support this type of behaviour then ??? Could not care less about my popularity on here, the long term use of pedelecs on roads and in countryside is far more important. And yes it seems the kits are legal to sell but the lengths Cyclo City have gone to to distance...

Interestingly Cyclo Tricity make all customers sign quite a detailed contract/ agreement before disclosing derestriction codes. Part of agreement... Some posters might be interested in part 3.6...??? I,d like to know Cyclo Tricity,s idea of off road ????

Are we actually saying this is legitimate ??? Healthy for ebiking ??? I,m not commenting either way, just interested what everybody else thinks ???

I get 28 miles on very mixed offroad with 3 hard climbs...thats with bike on highest setting. Reckon I could do route and save 20% , ie using eco in flat,switch off down hill etc. I,m running 22 psi in tyres, so I,d guess on fatbike you could equal it with 25 ish, and get worse with 10 or...

No Haibike...

So do I but its a privilege not a right on an ebike. Just don't get the reasoning behind illegalising pedelecs. They are brilliant as they are. If you want high power,faster speeds just get a motorbike. Would be easy to police no ebikes in country parks, impossible to differentiate legal from...

Yes I agree.. Good cycling.

Ktm Industries Think you,ve explained it better than I tried too. Totally agree with your posts. I don't think most folk realise the great position pedelecs are in, with regard to use in national parks etc. It would be so easy for us to lose this privilege.. Good points, well explained. On...

Glad to see thread has continued in better spirit. The debate was not centred around advice , good or bad, for bike purchase.In every case I read posters finished with try as many as possible in conditions you are likely to encounter.( or words to that effect) The contentious issue was D8veh...

Looks fantastic. Wife and I ran a hostel on Barra for a little while. Place and people stunning. Best views in world.. Hope you enjoy Muck... No idea about charger ???

So you are saying you can trigger any speed sensor with no torque ? No you can,t If the torque sensor was sensitive enough it would merely behave as a " movement" sensor. Seems the argument has drifted .. The question as to the suitability of Torque sensor/ speed sensor is not one is...

Read the blurb...its easy enough to follow.. Suppose government have had all pedelec laws written for nothing ? I,m telling you it will happen. Folk will lose their bikes and licenses. Its inevitable. And by the way in 2014 117 cyclists were killed on uk roads . Each of those scrutinised to the...

I,ve got bad knees, infact a steel one in right.. I have no problems at all pedalling the Haibike. The problem wasn't the advice is was the fact your mate , chief advertiser, told a poster he was talking bolux, when actually he wasn't , and even if he was d8veh has no right to tell anybody so...

If riders insist on breaking either the pedelec laws consistently the simple answer will just be put all of them under moped or motor cycle classification, effectively ending all pedelec use where only push bikes are allowed. Said it before but if folk want power over 15.5 mph and/ or...