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Ok thanks Indalo, it's good to hear the OAP view on the current state of affairs. £150 for a 12kg bike is something to see though. I thought that the whole point of a £1500 bike was it weighed only 12kg? Do people really spend that much money because it is 'triple butted' or 'hydroformed' or...

Hey, I'm all for a considered approach to things but come on now Gents, it's been 18 pages and rising and your not Jane Austin after all. Just get your wheels on and your bum in the saddle and then tell us all about it. Best wishes, hech.

Ok Zebb you may not climb many hills but for offroad starting, stopp[ing and accelerating the crank drive comes into its own. Slow speed trail riding- or mountain biking is the best fun you will get on an e-bike and crank drives are the best for just that.

This is interminable, Alex you really ought to join the Womens Rural Institute, do you by any chance know Morphix? You would make great penpals, really. Please stop wittering on and just shove the damn controller and battery in a bag. I have my own views as to where you might shove that but the...

Congratulations morphix you have just won my vote for the most tedious, non-productive build thread ever in the entire history of this crinkly old(but glorious) forum. Well done. Why dont you come back to us after you decide what colour of wheels you want and have actually fitted at least two...

Without wanting to sound sexist or anything do you think its the women who cause all the problems in the snow - wrong shoes or something (dont tell funkylyn I said that btw). Or maybe it's an english thing, the need to drive too close to the next car, to conform and queue? Maybe there's just...

If it works the Grace MX should be the production bike of the year. Am wondering how much it weighs and costs? The Grace Easy on the other hand is ugly, at the very least you should rip of that horrible headlight. Are these bikes really built in Germany?

Must be the three/five speed switch on the handlebar shorting and switching the controller to level 1. If the switch connecter looks ok you might well have water/corrosion in the handlebar unit. Do you keep the bike inside the house or out in the shed?

Try checking the fuse, they can melt partially giving a sporadic connection which may result in symptoms you describe, otherwise you will have to open up the controller and check for burned out mosfets or worse, malfunctioning thingymabobs.

Six hundred quid for the Bosch system even without the battery would be a best seller but will never happen as it would undermine the entire ebike business establishment in Europe. The Sunstar kit is obscenely priced and the noise it makes is no less than the GNG Gen2 unit D8vey already...

So how do you explain that d8veh eh? From your twin motor build thread you concluded this was an efficient set-up (I recall I think?). But if the controllers are getting hot you must be getting 15amps plus from each which is 600watts per from the 36v20ah battery. At 1200watts you are...

"The cyclist and the child were taken to a Portland hospital. Police described their injuries as non-traumatic. " Is this Portland, Oregon we're talking here? Sometimes I wonder why people choose to live in areas so densely populated they forgo some of the most basic human liberties others...

My apologies to you Amigafan for making what I thought a trivial joke which I thought incidentally, you took in very good spirit. It's a great shame others dont have the same good sense of perspective that you do, honestly they have no manners whatsoever.

Aha, and therein lies the truth of the matter, the diminishing marginal utility of kids. Amigafan claims to have three thus putting him 0.8 over the national average of 2.2. This explains his fast and loose attitudes towards child safety and hysterical parent syndrome, he feels he can afford it...

Hi Stuvy, the prices you quote sound very reasonable, it would be interesting to check out the site if you could post a link. The wattage discrepancy mentioned should not be a problem though not all controllers will suit every motor.

While you could probably fit a throttle to the handlebar it is unlikely that you could connect either to a Bosch or MFI unit. Alternatively you could buy one of these which I think you would like. Fit a slightly bigger battery and do a minor mod to the controller and it will run faster and...

Do you know what the 3 speed switch limits - voltage, current, phase amps and will all lyen's controllers have this feature even if it is not wired up?

Brilliant, well done!

That is a nice wattmeter you have put together Jeremy. Am interested in what you mean by a 'torque driven controller'?