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RobF I will not continue with this , all I shall say is simply try them before you regurgitate someone elses prejudicial comment . If I had the time or inclination I would answer your individual points just made BUT I reckon on past experience of answering you its a total waste of time.

Why do i need to look at the clip I have tried albeit briefly both bikes , the fact is that the lady was struggling was down to her not the bike . I have been close to buying Kalkhoff bikes before,there is nothing inherently wrong with them at all. Alan

You do continuously quote quite unsubstantiated comments - look at your earlier post regarding crank drive bikes then your "demolition" job on the Kalkhoff which is a machine I have tried HAVE YOU . I could continue with citing negative snide comments . If you are unable to substantiate your...

Totally agree with the above comment I have always had a dread of derailleurs (goes way back when bought 2 new bikes for£99) my last few and indeed the latest bike with Shimano SLX have changed my opinion . We also have Alfine 8 speed hub geared bike the SLX is more than adequate in that company...

Had my 8Ah batteried AVE now for 7 weeks . With the 4 main levels of assist ECO,TOUR,SPORT,SPEED you will easily achieve 25 miles even on Speed which i think is a 250% setting. I feel sure that this assistance is probably more than you need I find i use Tour (level3) much of the time on flat...

Spoilsport !!!!! a certain member has not sharpened his knives for a long while .... no entertainment this Sunday then . awwwr

Pray tell which hub-drive Lynda!!!!

I am a personal fan of crank drive BUT probably along with at least 99% of the folks on here we have not tried the rear drive systems from Panasonic, BionX and Kalkhoff that on spec alone seem worthy of consideration . Whether any bike is worth £1700 + can only be decided by the rider of that...

Costa Brava L'Estartit Camping Les Medes until end of Jan. then will move somewhere south :p

Get the campervan to Spain Eddieo We just arrived here 2 days ago , 19-20 degs in day 13 at night what a contrast to dank dismal Wales Added bonus at least we can cycle here ...... Alan

RobF You seem to trot out this statement regarding cassette and derailleur wear on a regular basis , please provide some evidence of this I have read through many threads on this and the German pedelec forum and to date i have still to read negative comments about excess wear. As Tillson...

Thats even better value as BionX kits seem to start at about £1000 so add fitting and a suitable bike its absolute min. £1600 As a day-day all rounder this seems a steal Alan

Quite a saving on rrp. anyone know much about the drive system? Alan

Not Flecc but giving my answer .......... you actually would have more right to use the Union flag than any of the other manufacturers in this discussion but I think a reference to earlier posts about local content percentage should deter you from doing this - whether 40% or so is a "fair"...

Tim you are in the best place to make such a judgemement over merits of each of the drive systems that Kalkhoff offer. I am prepared if you wish to do a long-term test (unpaid) to compare MH7 and Sahel compact . I promise to be entirely objective and report warts and all. Seriously I am still...

8Ah battery with the efficient drive system means that you cannot compare different drive types . My older 10Ah 24V. Panasonic had a range with my useage of about 30 miles , the Bosch with a nominally smaller battery capacity at least equals that. Alan btw. I rode the Bosch and Kalkhoff...

Hatti So still a little way off yet with a reliable centre drive competitor , however if in 2-3 years and with the positive comments similar to what came from the long term test of your Sirocco there may be vastly increased interest . Next step must also include more hybrids like the 2 bikes...

hI Jonah I own an MH7 and tested the Sahel Compact Of the two the MH7 is my bike of preference having the lively Bosch drive BUT the Sahel is a fine bike and especially with a healthy discount (50 cycles ) , I wish i had bought the Sahel as our 2nd bike ( for the missus) not the Wisper 806...

Hi Dave So its a lower powered version of a kit you have just installed , where if i remember correctly you were genuinely overwhelmed at the performance that you achieved . Alan

Hi Tim Your pm inbox is full , sent an e-mail Alan