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Stay Home, Save Lives, Protect the NHS !!! :D .

Unfortunately that is a two way street. It was societal pressure that got most smoking in the first place, the young long ago seeing how most adults smoked so they started too. The same was true for alcohol and still is, the long aisles of drink in supermarkets impressing on the young and even...

The worst pedelec accidents I've seen occurred on the designer's drawing board. .

It shows what I've always known, that none of the figures government give us are to be believed without question. They make them up all the time to fit whatever their agenda of the moment is. .

Agreed, but of course my post was not about blame or the pluses and minuses of individual helmet wearing, it was solely about the undesirability of enforcement to wear. I'm all in favour of freedom of choice and respect for the choices of individuals on how they choose to cycle. As for...

Even that is not quite right John, driving bans are regularly imposed upon people who have no driving licence, usually when they have been caught driving unlicenced. The ban period then takes effect from anytime when they apply for a driving licence. .

If all else fails, resort to insults. .

Doesn't happen does it? Remember this from my post: "At that time the surveyed helmet wearing rate in London was 27%. So all London's cycling deaths resulted from the quarter of cyclists wearing helmets. The three quarters of cyclists not wearing helmets resulted in no deaths." .

That's the brain isnt it? .

Yes you are distorting, the first two sentences are correct and proven. Note they are in the plural since I was speaking of countries with many cyclists. You posted differently by speaking of "in an accident", thus bringing in the individual effect of a helmet, which I acknowledged in my post...

Again individualising about the head injuries I've already acknowledged do happen! That is not the subject, the subject is that helmet compulsion increases the accident, injury and death rates of cyclists, a fact repeatedly proven by a number of countries and states who introduced it Once...

That is wilful distortion and I have never posted that, please at least be honest in your responses. Once again you individualise by saying "in an accident". I have always posted about death ratios and overall by country, where generally less helmet wearing brings a lower accident ratio and...

That's probably because the test responds to the dead particles of the virus left long after the infection in exactly the same way as it does to the live virus. However I do think 90 days is a bit extreme, I'm sure I'd have blown my nose by then. .

Agreed they already had a high death rate before the helmet compulsion The Australians are not an alien race from another planet, they are largely transposed Europeans. Their relatively small differences cannot possibly account for such immense differences in cycling death rates. That...

Oh dear, how many times must I state death rate. Your percentages are completely irrelevant to this subject of helmet compulsion and a meaningless comparison without cyclists per nation anyway. Bringing an example of the posted figures to today's: The Dutch have typically 200 deaths per...

What is ridiculous is your stubborn argument about a different, acknowledged and accepted issue. As stated, I'm arguing about the compulsion issue, that is the subject. Compulsory helmet wearing is widely proven to increase the death rate. As member Edward Elizabeth rightly posted above...

I've acknowledged at the outset that wearing a helmet can and often does improve an individual's situation, to say otherwise would be silly. Again you make the same mistake of individualising, completely ignoring the fact that compulsory helmet wearing can increase overall the ratios of...

No it is not a very wrong conclusion, it is proven that helmet wearing does not reduce the accidents, deaths and serious injuries. You are making the mistake of individualising where of course a helmet helps in individual cases as I've acknowledged at the outset. But helmets do not help...

Agreed, a Northern Ireland population of well under 2 millions cannot possibly justify the immense cost, so it will never happen. .

This thread isn't intended to influence whether anyone wears a cycle helmet or doesn't. That is entirely a matter of personal choice and I fully respect the choice of those who do. The primary intention of the thread is to show that enforcing wearing by legislation is very silly since it...