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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OJ, in general I will agree with you,and that the UK is safe, and the rule of law operates. However at the margins there are worrying signs. The decision to prevent that ISIS bride,as referred to on this thread,a case in point. The ability to intern is still on the statute books.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes me and 500 million others in Europe. List all the attributes you expect from a full English Brexit ,ask your pals what they expect and if you do that often enough you will have a dog's dinner.. Then,and this is the really interesting part, what will you want for AFTERs . The world does not...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And the result was that since nobody knew what they wanted in their brexit, that is exactly what they get...a type of Brexit that nobody wanted. No amount of additional effort will generate a different result. BTW, it appears that even some senior MPs are realising that Revoke is not the end of...
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    Hang on, the British Parliament has not ignored Brexit or the referendum Look at the amount of time it has devoted to it. In my opinion very ineffectively,but whatever, it has not been ignored. To give in to violence or the veiled threat of violence is appeasement. Unfortunately the vacuum of...
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    Obviously!
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    Evidence is evidence. Please contradict . The 400,000 spent by the DUP was donated by a third party and to be spent OUTSIDE NI. Contrary to any election norms. Legal maybe, moral and in keeping with the spirit of electral funding... Certainly NOT. Oh by the way they did get their 13K...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Look a little closer. The growth in activity is was the stockpiling of material in the event of no deal.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Follow the thread, .. Its only about 5 links, so you should be able to do it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think the evidence is mounting that it was tampered by highly selective biassed and personalised targeted factoids..by and in behalf of the Leave campaign. How many of these were actually lies and how many just highly hyped truths will never be determined. Whereas the Remainder campaign was...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who stands to make most money out of it? Now I wonder?. There are many scheme's by which a person with capital can make money , betting against the pound?. Short selling?. Keep up your fanboy adulation.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree it could happen by accident.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He was referring to Ms Cooper
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yet another person who misunderstood the nature of UK democracy. Aas an MP her responsibilities are to the Nation and use her best Judgement,not as a mouthpiece for her constituents. Anyway her act does not preclude the UK leaving WITH A .DEAL. So she has honoured the general terms of the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And why do you post?. Certainly it is not to demonstrate your command of the argument.
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    Then she will have a struggle to retain a seat. The price of principle over expediency. She needs only to remind them that her Act, has no effect on Brexit per se, provided a deal is reached. It is not an Act to revoke Brexit.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As Fingers never ceases to remind me, not my PM
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But then the UK would not have had sovereignty.! You really do not get the fundamental principle of fellowship. It is an arrangement freely entered into, and freely exited from. While in there are certain mutual benefits,which are not available after exiting A mistake you continue to make, and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Still reciting old tripes? 1. What EU Gravy train will the vast majority of MPs enjoy? 2. Being in the EU is Not a diminishment of the UKs confidence or abilities. .. Perhaps it is the contrary. 3. A bad idea is still a bad idea when voted by 52:48 .,so yes, I can agree that Brexit,even if...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course the EU want a Deal,and they constructed one. As was very evident the problem was not the deal, it was the three different equal sized sections in the UK Parliament. The 30% who did not want any deal,the 30% who would accept the deal and the 30% who utterly wanted to remain on the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is exactly the same crock pot which was sold to the USA people. .. See how that is panning out.