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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ..But the EU is working. It is democratic. It was not intansigent. The EU has changed it has enlarged from 6 member states to 28 and with a few more knocking on the door. Every assertion you have made in this posting can be challanged . So I have a challenge for you. Identify any one EU...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am not responsible for the voting patterns in Italy Poland , Spain or UK.. what I am however sure is that people there had the OPPORTUNITY to vote. Whether they choose to excercise that right is and was their choice. . Now you are flip flopping between at least three sets of alleged...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And the Guardian is the official organ of the EU?. In almost everyone of my posts about the EU,I have acknowledged it is not perfect.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fingers ..grow up!.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You need to distinguish between 3 types of EU representatives. 1. EU Commissioner is an individual selected by a Government. .. in exactly the same way as Army Generals, Judges , Ambassadors are selected by the government. 2. EU MEPs. They are directly elected by the citizens, using the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is the individual countries which select the person who will be their Commissioner,not the EU. Again the EU does not dictate. Responsible countries tend to select as their Commissioner someone with Ministerial experience. Perhaps in 10 years we will have an ethnic Indian commissioner from...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If any EU country practiced apartheid, and withheld education from women,or black people, I would be inclined to agree with you. But they don't. Possibly the last place in Europe, where overt discrimination against its citizens was carried out by agents of the state was in NI. (I stand to be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tommie, in what fashion is your posting not racist?.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nobody on the pro EU side has suggested that it not without faults or indeed in need of reform. But it constant lie .(.and it is a lie ) of a democratic deficit ,which eventually becomes wearing. If anything the EU is tediously overly democratic. The decision regarding qualified majority voting...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And the DUP monies were??? As I am continually saying a crashout Brexit will be very painful for all Ireland. The volume of north south traffic on the M1 South or A2 North is serious. The number of NI builders white vans in my locality, the very pleasant Ulster Bank personnel ,I meet on the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "Thinking " is a very good concept, but" knowing " is a lot more powerful. I am tired of refuting the lies about unelected cabals. Look up invincible ignorance as a concept.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is of course an obvious alternative... Cancel Brexit!. Then UK gets. 1. No immediate lump sum requirement 2. Full voting rights and a place at the top table 3. Opportunity to select decent competent representatives for EU Parliament and EU Commission 4. Immediate access to the largest...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ..remember neither I nor AK have a vote.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Need I say it again, Trusk did not blame voters. He did blame those who advocated and planned for a leave vote,without bothering to think about what came next. Even the Guardians headline was incorrect.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What that means is that more UK punters BELIEVE that an extension will happen, than other options. It is ironically the ONLY option which outside their ability to influence
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I live in hope. As I see it today. 1. Europe is not for turning on the Backstop for NI if UK exits the CU. 2. Labour will not support WA outside of CU. 3. Backstop is irrelevant in a CU. 4. EU is politely saying no Article 50 extension ..on anything proposed at present...if CU were...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well you of course.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. that entire article is based on a lie. . I use the word LIE deliberately.it is an untruth intended to decieve. Mr Trusk, referred directly to those who.promoted the referendum.,not the 17 million who voted . The article asserts that he was insulting the 17 million and that IS the LIE...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We could disagree on this. If someone is not listening to reason and diplomacy, when they conjugate every sentence and extract meanings from them not intended, then maybe ,just maybe , plain talking will break the complacency barrier. The audience was not the diehard Brexiteers, but to give...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well one of us is not living on planet earth.