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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am afraid your memory is a little rose tinted. Can you not remember moneylenders, pawnshops, payment in the pub for labourers , company towns, tokens instead of cash. As had been stated, credit availability is a good thing,and enables postive productive loans wirh a return on investment. ...
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    The problem with that take on economics is knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing. That model is so reductionist that it ignores all social, environmental responsibility and inevitably leads to improvishment. If all the economic costs are actually included and properly...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Close?. Brexit crashout is 36 working day away. Not the luxury of even 60.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A nicely argued position, but with one flaw. Economics is a means not an end. My illustration, almost as valid as your corner shop is. If I bake a loaf of nice wholemeal bread and eat it, I achieve the necessary end goal..satisfaction and a full tummy. But no" economic good". If I buy my loaf...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If you go back to one of my posts of perhaps a week ago, I suggested a very feasible way forward. Whether it would leave the Conservatives in government after the next budget is problematic. It will not matter how large or small her begging bowl is, the EU is not for turning. 1. Negotiate...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is pointless is that this is rehashing the past. Now in the run up to the referendum, uncontrollable immigration into the EU was a hot topic. It did affect the actions of some louts and therefore the reactions of EU nationals living perfectly legally in the UK. Put simply it emboldened...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I hate to say ," I told you so. ".... actually that is the first deliberate untruth ,I have said on this forum, but the response from Europe today are exactly as I had suggested previously. 1. The Agreement is concluded. It is not open for re negotiation. 2. The Backstop is part of the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My prediction from last night was the pound falling a little.. and so it has.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The Omega 3 in the kippers would have counteracted the cream!.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course,with money you can buy anything. It is different from wartime. The EU is unlikely to torpedo a shipment of frozen kangaroo ,or lamb from the ends of the earth. You don't have as much space as you think, Those extra 20 million people want to live in separate accommodation, travel on...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Your quibbles about punctuation, are as relevant to this discussion as the HoC debate.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Regrettably the life expectancy of Scots was poorer than SE England, and it was not genetics, but an improverished diet. So not racist. Again and again the EU are not driving the British anywhere. The UK has been in the driving seat all the time, and if anything they were confirmed as the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That is exactly the reason it needs to remain in the Deal , to prevent Westminster walking away. Again and again I have said that a Backstop does not need to include Mainland UK, that is a wrinkle that the UK negotiators wished inserted, to help their current parliamentary arithmetic. If...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    A Backstop is not an agreement after the event. It is a legally binding part of a contract before the event.. a pre nup if you will. If there is no Deal, there could be an ad hoc arrangement by which we won't look if you won't tell, ..which could survive until the first batch of hormone treated...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Which part of pariah state do you wish me to explain?.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I wonder who is bankrolliing this pressure group?. I will assure you Tommie it is not coming from church gate collections , raffles or whip arounds in the local pub. Need I remind you that a figure of between 88% and 92% of RoI people polled would oppose this .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It would short circuit a lot of repetition if you would read what has been written. The Backstop was originally agreed to stop a physical hard border infrastructure on the island of Ireland. It had no relevance to a hard border at Calais. Without a Deal it is inevitable that there will be a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Great.. you have got it!. The Backstop is and was intented to cover the interval between the exit date (nominally march 29) and when a mutually agreeable effective solution which did not involve permanent manned posts could be in place. It could by definition not be time limited,but could be...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This self delusion continues apace. 1. For some obcure reason.. perhaps geography, there are no major international shipping ports in Switzerland. ,So the volume of product is restricted. UK has a few major ports ,so the prospects of flooding the EU with substandardand non compliant goods from...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No. Can you see that NOTHING has changed. ?. In fact the UK is now in even a worse state than it was yesterday. It has voted not to seek an extension. It has voted to only work on removing the Backstop. It has voted not to have any more customs infrastructure on the island of Ireland. The EU...