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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is important to look at the order in which the three items of lasts weeks "agreement to proceed " were couched. Money was listed as item 3, it always was.. why? because in the EU mindset it was and is the least important. The rights of the 560 million EU citizens, was primary, the rights of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I fully agree with you, and it is equally insulting to label approximately half the UK voters with title "remoaners".
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Now that the furore and the hype of yesterday's handshake and signing of agreed statements , has taken place, I am left wondering about their status. If as some commentators, have stated , that the formal letter in her hand , written after votes in parliament, were taken and invoking article 50...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I remember from my coordinate geometry, if you or neither converging or diverging, you are on a parallel path.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. not the bill of 40billion, if the UK were in it wouldn't be paying it. There is a lot more discussed around the table than European integration, and does the UK not have a view on that also? . In future its opinion, council, its approval will not be sought. If it going to maintain regulatory...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It is the second best option, , keeping to EU norms. The best option A IMHO ( or not so humble) would keeping to EU norms while having a place at the table.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Despite themselves, the DUP will have done the UK a great service. In time , I hope the majority in mainland Britain will agree. Is it not interesting to note that the wave of anti Irish hysteria has now abated. This proves that it was orchestrated.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. How generous of you to offer it to OT, well its not that its being excercised much at present....
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Firstly that was not the question I posed... Whether it is better to go away or to compete. Secondly I am assuming that your reference to "democratically agreed " refers to the referendum. If so a potential united states of Europe was not an issue. If memory serves it was on " taking back...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    .. and the best way to avoid this is .. multiple choice pick one.... 1. Lock yourself out of the room , go to a corner and put your hands on your ears Or 2. Join the discussion and argue why it is a bad thing , form allies with other parties who think the same and vote it down.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    . The vast majority of people in ireland and that includes those in NI, do not want the UK to leave the EU. The DUP have read this one wrong. So it is not surprising that SF are aligned with FG. It would be difficult to find any other issue on which there is such convergence, except perhaps...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The most important attribute when engaging in negotiations is an assumption of honesty, that what is said if meant and that the other party will keep to their word. . Mr Davis has squandered that. Even if the British parliament refuses to censure him and remove him as their negotiator, he now...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Now I dont want to get stuck into uk parliamentary business, but why would she not elicit support from the Labour side if going for a softer option. ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think Daves comment about the Gibraltar border as not being a problem, is that it is already as rigid as possible and there would be no give. There is nothing to negotiate, so no problem!!
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG, i would like to modify one of your comments in the above.. relating to the financial crash in 2008 and the assumption that it was unforeseen... It was foreseen, was written about and a number of the big players knew it was going to happen , just not exactly when... Many were planning on one...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Listening to the types of statement today, my timeworn excuse of " the dog ate my homework", and" it fell of the bike carrier into a puddle of water" , seem masterful in their clarity,.. Even as we didn't have a dog, and I walked to school. That the UK cabinet have neither had cabinet...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Is he an Irish citizen?, There are so many untruths listed in this and the previous missive, that nothing he says retains credibility. There are so many places I could start, so I will start and finish with the only truth, we both share... The EU does not want the UK to leave.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So are you saying you misplaced the quotation marks? . And i did answer the other question, This permanent reaction force was agreed in signing the Lisbon. Not Lisburn, agreement. It started to come into fruition, at the November EU meeting. Ireland, particularly the FG side led by Simon...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Further to the PESCO concept, it was brought to the irish cabinet on 14th. November, and has been one of Simon Coveney pet projects since his time as minister for defense. . The original concept was as part of the Lisbon treaty. The reason it was discussed and agreed in the Dail is because it...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My understanding of parliamentary procedure, and particularly in the case of the UK, was that misleading, not even lieing to the house was viewed as a big no no . , And ministers would either be sacked or resign, where there a whiff of an untruth. Is it not the case that this man stated that...