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I've never denied it, they are already paying. Remember though that the population is almost all at the mild end of the country, just like Norway. But we are all now playing the same game, balancing costs present and future against deaths. We each make our choices and there are no innocents...

Your government has already accepted that risk on your behalf. Look at sptj's 7 day graph and you'll see there's little between Sweden's and the UK's Covid positions. But we've taken a huge social and a lasting massive economic hit, they haven't. I'd say they have the far better deal at...

Agreed, but their economic and quality of life benefits are huge, basically no change from normal. And the outcome still less bad than some predictions about their ignoring social distancing and not bothering with lockdown. .

Contents insurance definitely won't be acceptable it has to be third party insurance against all on road risks. Try a Lloyds broker who can recommend an insurer familar with motor insurance who could quote. Explain to the broker that your requirement is for a non listed moped class perfectly...

But on the other hand Sweden is very cold country and has accepted a high proportion of BAME immigrants, both predicting more negative outcomes. All part of a conundrum we know very little about, in which it's wise to experiment to find out more. .

Some did much later, but that was after the step throughs had arrived. Bloomers were more commonly used externally in association with the bathing stations used to permit concealed emergence into the sea. The first outrageous-for-the-time wearing of mens plus fours by a very few female rebels...

No-one is ready, I still enjoy a happy and productive life, but my penultimate paragraph applies to all of us. Crippling the future is also no answer. .

You really are such a doom monger, only ever looking at the negative whether exaggerating the risk of some from Hong Kong coming here or taking the worst slant on this Middle Eastern data. I'm surprised you bother to get out of bed in the morning! .

I'm staying open minded about that. This issue isn't as cut and dried as it might seem since there's so much we don't understand. We've seen Sweden adopt a totally cavalier attitude to lockdown and social distancing and not suffer anywhere near as badly as the doom mongers predicted. There's...

Indeed, there was a thirty year gap between the first safety bicycles and the first step through, so the women had no option during that period than ride with a crossbar. Those few brave souls were sometimes prepared to shock by wearing "plus fours". .

It is not new rights, they are identical to those of over 20 years ago. Then they were over 3 million, now reduced a little to 2.9 million. Then as now they had the right to travel to the UK and if China failed to honour the agreement agreed with Governor Chris Patten we could grant them the...

Actually it was never a mans bike, when the crossbar frame bike was invented to replace the dangerous "penny farthing", it was called the Safety Bicycle. It was only later when the step through frame was created to accommodate the ladies long dresses that the original was christened...

But we don't need it to go away to pay off, just reduce enough for it to pay off economically. It's not going to go away without a vaccine. I notice on the excess deaths chart you just posted that the two very hot and dry countries of Israel and South Africa are on the negative side, zero...

Maybe, maybe not. It could pay off: Information Link .

No it didn't, they were two different things. The circa three million have that entitlement due to living there before the handback to China, it equally caused a fuss here when it was announced in 1999. The Tory press kicked off and announced we'd be flooded with Chinese. In fact virtually...

They've always had this entitlement though, I remember it being stated at the time of the handback to China so it's not a change of any sort. They didn't exercise their option back then in 1999 so many won't do now. .

If my experiences in the reserve this afternoon were anything to go by, they've already blown it. The following is what I wrote in an email to a fellow committee member on my return: "Social distancing is rapidly disappearing it seems, a number of families on the paths making no effort. Also...

Totally agree. They would pay even without this Cummings saga. No government could survive the financial consequences of Covid-19, let alone chucking in the admitted negative consequences of Brexit. Another period of austerity but even tougher this time. .

:D :D Seems typical of our lockdown behaviour around here! Probably flew from Redhill. .

In here maybe! :D Anyway it's not Monday, it's Poets day. .