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  1. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It will go soon enough. Then you'll realise that you didn't know what you'd got 'till it'd gone. :):)
  2. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Someone once put that rather, umm, lyrically: Big Yellow Taxi by Joni Mitchell They paved paradise And put up a parking lot With a pink hotel *, a boutique And a swinging hot spot Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone They paved paradise And...
  3. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes - I expect closer integration. The precise nature of that integration, and the possibility of movements in the opposite direction at the same time, are open to speculation and discussion. European defence force (why does everyone say "army"? surely it will need naval and aerial...
  4. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There are times I find it very difficult to care about "fair". The rotten referendum was itself unfair. Don't get me wrong, I want everything to be scrupulously fair at all times. But when it isn't on one occasion, it is more difficult to uphold the need for fairness when the reverse could happen.
  5. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I have NEVER said that all leavers didn't know what they were voting for. Nonetheless, it seems to be pretty much impossible to find any leaver who described the trajectory from the referendum to now before it happened. Not in detail, just in very broad brush strokes. What will happen from now...
  6. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Where do you get your idea that the pro-remain posters here accept the vote? Given the extremely questionable basis of the referendum (on many grounds), I doubt any of the pro-remain people here accept it.
  7. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I checked the PDF details - produced from Word on a Mac virtually no information except the document is identified as something like Draft 5c. Not even final, approved, or whatever. I think I'd be proud of a document that was being widely distributed, had I written it. (Not, I hasten to add...
  8. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Could someone be worried about a little court case? Not long to go... Brexit: court rejects attempt to derail article 50 hearing Government challenge against European court of justice referral dismissed by supreme court The supreme court has dismissed an attempt by the Brexit secretary...
  9. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who are the actual authors?
  10. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Made me smile: JonathanKent 1h ago Contributor Only Bagpuss can save us from Brexit... https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/nov/20/story-bagpusss-magical-folk-soundtrack-sandra-kerr-john-faulkner-oliver-postgate
  11. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sometimes looks like Polly was made for now: For hard-right revolutionaries, Brexit is cover for a different end Polly Toynbee A group of extremists within the Tory party would welcome the havoc unleashed by ‘no deal’ to advance their cause The vultures circle a wounded prime...
  12. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I like the cut of your Gib. :)
  13. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If I had more faith in medics, I might be more impressed by Sarah W. As it is, it does make me wonder if we should put "First, do no harm" on the list of things that MPs should swear (or affirm, or whatever) when taking their seats... :) Sarah Wollaston pushes for MPs' vote on second Brexit...
  14. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was: https://www.barrygardiner.com/
  15. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    She was on the panel in Question Time at Milford Haven - and was incredibly annoying then. Her smug "I've prepared my answer to that question" look was yuck. Sure it's not directly brexit, but am jolly glad I don;t work for any of them. Energy minister Claire Perry accused of swearing and...
  16. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Interesting to look up Richard Elliot COOK https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/6YP-Ed7vjPHMkQNAGO9tc-jfS98/appointments For someone who has held 11 appointments, and somehow a history of compulsory striking off, dissolving, etc. runs through. I wonder where his assets now are?
  17. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Editorial in Guardian/Observer: Mr Raab is positioning himself as a replacement for the prime minister. So is his predecessor, David Davis. It is hard to think of less suitable candidates, although that is a competitive field in the Conservative party...
  18. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Unless the population at large feels secure, it could be that all the stored food will be bought without any price slashing - possibly even increasing prices. Belief in that possibility, even likelihood, might be why the food industry is willing to stump up for this stockpiling.
  19. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Something a little bit odd about freezer space reaching fever pitch, don't you think? UK running out of food warehouse space as no-deal Brexit fears rise Owners of storage facilities say demand has reached ‘fever pitch’ since last week’s chaos Britain is running out of food warehousing...
  20. oyster

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I was going down the DQ route - Disunited Queendom.