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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Of course not, but I'm not arguing replacement since there won't be any if the extension is requested by a deputy. I'm only speaking of short temporary absence, since clearly Johnson will want to do a whole 5 year term at least. His delusions of being another Churchill probably means he is...
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed, but he won't. .
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As I just intimated to Oyster, 19th October is a long way away. Plenty of time for Johnson to be absent on any excuse with a deputy PM sending the extension request. He saves face, no law is broken. Simples. .
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What I'm trying to get across is that there is no immediate "in advance". The request for the extension doesn't have to be made on Monday after the Royal Assent, there's plenty of time yet before the deadline. Johnson can just take a break or go on an official foreign trip, appointing whoever...
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm speaking of the deputy appointed and then temporary cover for absence. It's often been the case in the past. I mentioned Clegg, but I remember John Prescott was deputy PM to Tony Blair for ten years, acting for him in many absences. .
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not sure that's clear. I see nothing to stop him taking a break and appointing a deputy PM in his short absence, able to request the extension. Then no law is broken. .
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, it could be any, but Gove was a leading campaigner for Brexit and in support of Johnson's No Deal, so most likely as deputy in my view. It would be up to Johnson since it's solely the PM's choice. The last deputy PM was Nick Clegg, chosen by Cameron. .
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Or bought 1.2 miles of HS2. .
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No succession necessary if he's only temporarily covering in the post. Johnson wouldn't be kept out of parliament permanently by the Speaker. The usual form is that an apology is issued by the offender, enabling return to the benches. By that time the extension request crisis would have...
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It will maybe go ahead cleverly disguised, but in truth helping his GE campaign without going onto the GE expenditure books. .
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And bringing back May's deal with very minor tweaking like a backstop time limit is now looking ever more likely. It'll be interesting to see if the DM and/or the ERG attempt to dress that up as acceptable. .
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Prison seems unlikely for a first offence, especially as it's more akin to a civil than criminal one. But what alternative? There's a Community order, picking up litter, cleaning off grafiti etc. Or maybe a mischievous bench could decide on an ASBO, banning him from going within 100 yards...
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He might be smart enough to get in first by saying he was taking a holiday, leaving Gove holding the fort as deputy in the usual PM's holiday manner. Then Gove while temporarily in office as PM could ask Brussels for the extension. I think we can be sure there will be some device to ensure no...
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Possibly, after all, a titled member of the House of Lords can be PM and a number have served as PM from the Lords. .
  15. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We have newish Ocean class ships that are ideal for this purpose, all carrying helicopters and landing craft and each able to easily carry 500 passengers in comfort. The last I heard of them was one of them, HMS Bulwark, rescuing migrants crossing the Med. And as you say, no government to...
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Under article 8 of the Geneva Convention as cruel and unusual punishment. .
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Possibly there was once a time when they'd try to keep us in, but I think the mood has changed and they've lost patience with us. There's only so much one can put up with from awkward neighbours. They know we'll come crawling back in due course. .
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not anyone's ex anything, why would I volunteer to not get my own way all the time? ;) .
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You can't, only Johnson can test it. If he doesn't resign, I'm right, the question is proven to be academic. If he resigns, Fingers is right, the question wasn't academic. But even then it's all academic, since you'll have lost your No Deal Brexit if Corbyn is invited to form a government. .
  20. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The question of Johnson resigning is academic as I stated, since he won't, so the question won't be tested. .