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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Time for a little reminder of the person who first raised the subject of prorogueing parliament, long before any here or in parliament thought of it. And he was told by some that he was talking nonsense, that it was just waffle. Yes, it was me in this post , showing once again what I've often...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is, I gave it, assuming people want a better life than now or in a post Bre xit future. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'll give you my option. Fully join in with all aspects of the EU and the euro. With the cooperation inherent in that and the strength of the pound integrated into the euro, the EU and euro would enjoy a huge surge in international strength, benefitting all of us. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's because ours is a parliamentary democracy. That fundamentally makes breaches of parliamentary procedure intended to obstruct our democratic system very wrong indeed. Conversely not implementing the public referendum vote is perfectly acceptable, firstly because it was advisory in our...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Only some felt duped, just those who fell for the pro EEC propaganda. That's why most did not overwhelmingly change their minds. That's why the near 69% for in 1975 did not become 69% against in 2016. Instead Leave barely scraped a win, and that only due to an utterly dishonest Leave...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No you aren't dealing with facts, your displaying a belief in what you would have liked, to the exclusion of the truth that also existed in parallel. Of course I can't show the street newspaper billboards from that time or play recordings of the news back then. I've shown you exactly what Ted...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not pretending this isn't true, I've stated as much in my post by saying how they were carried away by propaganda on both occasions. To spell it out again, first time they preferred the pro propaganda, second time the anti propaganda. Both were undeniably packed with lies, but the truth...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And that's where it falls down with the Irish border. There can be no faith or trust where that border is concerned, and everyone knows it, hence these technical "solutions" being turned down. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    They conned themselves by not being interested enough. The statements from Ted Heath were plastered all over newspaper billboards, one didn't even need to buy a newspaper. Heath was quoted extensively on radio and TV news in both 1972 when we joined and in 1975 before the referendum. And just...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But Heath said the same back in 1972: Here's extracts from what Ted Heath said publically and which were widely reported when he wanted to sign up to EEC membership: "I have had the vision of a Britain in a united Europe; a Britain which would be united economically to Europe" "I want Britain...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Police figures show that the amount of crimes reported at this year's Glastonbury Festival is way down in comparison to 2017. Somerset Live spoke to Avon and Somerset Inspector Mark Nicholson on Sunday to discuss the reported crime figures from Tuesday-Sunday (June 25-30). So far at this...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Keep a sense of proportion. That's out of over a million people attending and 12,000 police officers present. The police having been having a very quiet time there with many enjoying themselves. I know that from my police officer neighbour and pal. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If you can't think of anything cricket related, call her stumped. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Human nature being what it is, it will be the new bad to moan about. Too hot, too much the same, too boring, too anything anyone can think of. Until some future government has the idea of a referendum to join the EU. That will liven things up! ;) .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My post deleted, so you can delete your above response if you wish. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As I've reminded 50Hertz more than once, why pick on London when there's far worse elsewhere in England, particularly Birmingham and the West Midlands with far less than London's population. Like 79 murders in in June 2017 to June 2018, their murder rate further increased since then and now at...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Although their subject was EU migration, that mention was concerned with the non-EU factor: "Estimated non-EU net migration, meanwhile, is 261,000 a year—the highest level recorded since 2004. It has been almost consistently higher than EU migration for decades. " End of quote. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not me, I've just been calmly doing a Robdon. :) .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I can. It will be Greece all over again when the people are asked in a referendum. Faced with losing the euro they'll back off and vote to remain. .
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    oomph in French = pouf in German = pep in English = zero mph, in other words getting nowhere. ;) .