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  1. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    the majority won that vote but loses the argument. If there is another referendum, it's very likely that brexit will be reversed. If so, common sense is with hindsight. What happened before (the vote) was a moment in time where several exceptional factors had a part.
  2. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    if so, how do you explain civilised countries dropping bombs or imposing economic sanctions?
  3. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Laura Kuenssberg tweet: a small group of Labour MP s is leaving. It seems to me that both parties need to be split to bring sanity back.
  4. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    brexit is a phenomenon that defies common sense.
  5. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    he can only issue a TEO if he can justify she is a public danger, not on what the tabloids say.
  6. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    that EU study I link to estimated about 4,500. Isis collapsed partly because many EU Jihadis come home.
  7. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    common problem in France, Belgium, Netherlands etc. thousands of ISIS fighters have come back. The EU has issued a directive in 2017 to standardise the definition and response to those who returned. Basically, Begum would be candidate for EU sponsored deradicalisation program. I doubt that she...
  8. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    there are thousands of similar cases, those who take off the niqab to get home, but her case has to be dealt with here, I agree if we could pay Bengladesh to take her, it would suit everyone.
  9. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I've just heard on BBC News at 10 that her lawyer welcomes police investigation into her actions. if she is as you said card carrying member, then her sentence can be 10+ years in detention.
  10. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    more than 400 presumed ISIS supporters have come back. can you give me any example of an ISIS bride being successfully prosecuted?
  11. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    let's wait and see who is right. It won't be long before Begum comes back here in police custody. https://www.ft.com/content/157c8e12-3053-11e9-8744-e7016697f225 quote: It is not a crime, in the UK, to marry an Isis fighter, or travel to the caliphate. The Australians have made it a crime to...
  12. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    no, it does not. Quote the law to me if you like. There is no legal term for 'ISIS bride' as far as I am aware.
  13. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    do you remember a few of us jumped to conclusion about the source of Novichok not so long ago? Let's not be so hasty to assume that because she (Begum) surrendered to the SDF that she is ISIS fighter.
  14. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I already replied to this type of association. it's up to the law court to decide if she was involved in any atrocities, her unborn child has rights too.
  15. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I did not say anything about her guilt, I think she has the right to come back and give birth to her son or daughter here. The evidence about her guilt will be established in good time. If she is found guilty, she'll go to jail. There is no need to get het up about that. Being an 'ISIS bride'...
  16. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I would rather wait for the evidence than jumping hastily into conclusion.
  17. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    what is the evidence? I asked in an earlier post, did she join the ranks of ISIS fighters or did she make a propaganda video? Go to live in Syria is not the same as joining the ranks of fighters. Part of the territory of Syria was occupied, people who lived there weren't terrorists. The new law...
  18. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    that law comes to force only this week. At the time she left for Turkey, there was no such law prohibiting British citizens to go live in Syria. Ben Wallace (Security minister) told Sky News: “As a British citizen she has a right to come home here, we are obliged to make sure our citizens have...
  19. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    so your solution is to turn the clock back to whence you stole an apple, you got shipped to the colonies?
  20. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    the context was the second world war. What happens if your parents were German? Before the war started, some Britons even moved to Germany to fight for Hitler. After the war ended, many had the chance to flee the war zone to England, France, USA etc to start a new life. More recently, we have...