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  1. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps with each other? ;) .
  2. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Originally it meant Standard North American Family in a serious scientific context, but it's spread wider in both space and corrupted meaning. .
  3. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Trouble is, like all good things, there's a downside, and in this case it's the fast audio-visual communications that globalism brought as a consequence. When I was younger we wouldn't know if someone was striking in distant places. We only got foreign news if we were directly affected, like...
  4. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's globalism for you. A Tory policy. .
  5. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Well here we are at the third Brexit Christmas, so in the spirit of the season and the times, I wish you all ******* A Merry Brexmas ********* ************** and a ***************** ******* Happy New Deal ******** .
  6. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree and have never disagreed with this. But once again, it's irrelevant, leave or remain were not and could not have been GE issues, so voting on that basis would have been irrationally foolish. It seems from what Fingers says that thousands wasted their vote in that way, how sad is that? .
  7. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not so, leave and remain were not GE issues since that was already decided, so voting for those who had supported remain would have been a wasted vote, irrational tokenism. So I used my vote sensibly, for things I wanted that were being offered And I've said as much and more. At my age and...
  8. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is it about Leavers that they don't understand these simple concepts? The country voted in an advisory referendum for the government to leave the EU with a deal. That is what the Leave campaign offered, promising it would be easy to get a favourable deal. Accordingly the government...
  9. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Isn't that what we all do, vote for what we want? And can't you get it into your head that the referendum had already happened and Leaving was not a general election issue since both parties were going for leave. So I wasn't hoping for anything on that from Corbyn and still don't, that horse...
  10. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No I didn't because I couldn't have, he's wrong since the referendum had already decided that so it wasn't a GE issue. As I've already told him, I voted for what was most important for me in the GE agendas, getting rid of the current MP and voting for two Labour manifesto items. .
  11. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Then account for this. Most of the electorate always vote for their same party choice, regardless of what is in their manifesto. That's why it's commonly said that only the minority of swing voters ever decide who wins GEs. .
  12. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I didn't argue any of this, it's all just your usual long rant about your own agenda and not in any way relevant to what I posted, which essentially was: Voting for a party doesn't imply agreement with everything in their manifesto. It certainly didn't for me at the last GE as I've already...
  13. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What is wrong with you that you constantly post things at are irrelevant to what I posted, which was this: "A vote for a party does not indicate agreement with everything that party stands for." That's a fact and nothing you've replied with is anything to do with that. .
  14. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No Deal isn't on offer so not relevant. The ERG agenda isn't democracy. Nor can you say all 52% wanted no deal. They were told there would be a leave deal and voted for that, not for no deal. .
  15. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    When do we ever get what we vote for? We live in hope and learn to be disappointed with the less than satisfactory outcomes. The country voted to leave, advice to the government who hold the reins. May's Deal is all that is on offer, so it's accept that as good enough or forget it and remain...
  16. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Irrelevant rubbish trying to wriggle out of the obvious truth and nothing to do with what I posted. It was a general election, not another referendum. It's as I posted. A vote for a party does not indicate agreement with everything that party stands for. Sometimes a compromise for the...
  17. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If put to the electorate it doesn't matter that it's not through parliament at present. .
  18. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    For the third time, this is an invalid argument. None of those votes indicated definite support for Leave, the great majority of GE votes are for the party usually supported. 80% didn't vote for Leave in the referendum, did they, showing how false your argument is. .
  19. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What's wrong with May's Deal or Remain? They are the only true alternatives, what we have or the Leaving deal that was negotiated following the referendum decision. The others are from factional interests like the ERG or new directions, having no part of democracy. .
  20. flecc

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Once again, it's an invalid argument since there cannot be party for every individual's likes devoid of any of their dislikes. So every vote is a compromise. The compromise could be to get what is liked from a manifesto. Or it could be simply because of being unable to accept what the other...