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  1. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Tories still believe that the EU is like a business, it can be bought. Of course they are wrong on this. The admin cost of the EU is only 10% of their budget, without the UK's contribution, they will have to scale down their projects but money is not the most important factor. TM's strongest...
  2. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    this chestnut looks like cherry picking.
  3. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    David Davis is a lazy idiot.
  4. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    yes but not without a fresh GE. the problem here is not how to deliver brexit but which brexit. The current parliament is composed by mostly remainers who happen to promise delivery of brexit so their natural tendency is to see brexit as a damage limitation project rather than what a...
  5. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I am simply talking about industrial policy. Nothing will stop a centre right government do even better than JC. At the moment, the conservatives are so absorbed in ther internal fight about Europe that they have no industrial policy for after brexit.
  6. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    our economy will certainly shrink on WTO brexit but it isn't a terminal decline. We are still the EU's single biggest market and on WTO, HMRC Treasury will collect tariffs from not only the EU 27 but from all other countries selling to us. 80% of that money goes to the EU's coffers until now...
  7. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    the GFA is an international treaty between the UK and the ROI. From wikipedia: The GFA allows Northern Irish residents access to the European Court of Human Rights, it required enactment of the Human Rights Act 1998. Consequently, the Agreement was a significant factor preventing the repeal of...
  8. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Hard brexit is no deal, we don't do anything, just wait for the EU and the ROI to push us off the cliff. WTO brexit means we will do a minimal deal with the EU to protect citizens rights, air traffic, nuclear medicine etc then apply initially some tariffs as per WTO most favoured nations. Over...
  9. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    the Electoral Commission would agree to a WTO brexit or Canada brexit but may not agree to a no deal though. No deal is not deliverable. There is a problem with both WTO brexit and Canada brexit, both require a NI backstop because the UK has signed an international treaty with regard to NI.
  10. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    true enough but given a chance of the second referendum, few previous remain voters would have reason to change their mind and vote leave this time whereas many previous leave voters will find reasons to abstain or vote remain. Before the vote can go ahead, the Electoral Commission will...
  11. Woosh

    Global warming,is it just the cycles of the earth

    my suspicion is the 37%-40% of landmass used for agriculture. If you replace so much forests with rice or beans, you change the weather.
  12. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    in last night's QT, a lady who voted leave said that she is so confused now that she does not know who to believe any more. My guess she is representative of a substantial group of leave voters - those who don't see leave as a point of principle but who voted leave on the balance of what they...
  13. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    was it in last night QT? there was this interesting suggestion for the second referendum: 1. leave to decide which brexit (WTO, Canada, Norway or Mrs May's). 2. voters to choose between that brexit and remain Any brexit deal with the EU will of course include the NI backstop, it will take...
  14. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Corbyn would rather eat his own pumpkins than cancel brexit.
  15. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Both Conservative and Labour parties voted 498 to 114 to trigger A50, the current parliament is unlikely to reverse brexit. You'd need a new parliament to do that.
  16. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Even brexit economists concede that a hard brexit will wipe out most of our manufacturing. why would they want to manufacture here when we have an open door to imports like Singapore or Hongkong?
  17. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    where most brexiters don't seem to think of is how much integration is the basis for growth in trade and integration means shared standard, value and sovereignty.
  18. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    they don't believe in predictions made by the other side. The ERG has already come to the conclusion that keeping the £39 billions on the table is a sensible thing, even if their side wins the argument. They would pay to get an immediate carbon copy of the CETA. If we brexit without a deal, I...
  19. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    it has a registered address but when the BBC reporter turned up there, there is no physical presence of the company.
  20. Woosh

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OT, please give it up. We all enjoy frank exchanges of view. This place isn't an echo chamber, we should do our best to keep it that way. nobody has given you the right to use insults.