Argos E-plus Problem

saneagle

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My aprentice fell off his bike at low speed. Afterwards, his bike became intermittent then stopped working. The zero LED is blinking. IIRC, someone else had that error code, I found the manual, but the zero LED blinking was not included in the list. Can anybody remember the thread or the solution? It took ages to find the manual last time. I think I linked it in that other thread mentioned above.

The setup is pretty straight forward. The controller is in the battery base. It only has the 5-way block connector for the LED panel, two block connectors for the brakes and one for the PAS. The connectors sit in the bottom of the downtube. I disconnected the brakes and PAS, but the LED is still blinking. Who wants to guess at the cause? There are no signs of damage anywhere. I visually checked all the cables. And before anybody feels tempted, the motor connector is all the way to the line.

This is the LED panel. Note that it's the version with 4 LEDs in the top edge, not 5. It also has a long cable with the block connector.

 

saneagle

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After a lot of research, I found out that it's a King Meter T319. I have a spare 24v one off a folder. When I check the markings on the back, they have the wheel size in the code, so I guess that the speed limit is controlled by this device, which is a real problem. I found an Aliexpress seller, who has them for £52, and they say that you have to give them the bike details so that they can customise the settings. Sheiße!

It's looking like I'm going to have to do a bodge. Maybe it'll work with a King Meter LCD. I'm guessing that it's a Santrol controller because that's what all the other Argos bikes have.
 

Sparksandbangs

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As far as I am aware there are 2 Kingmeter protocols. If it is KM5S then it would be worth a try with another display. I would have thought you have a selection of old displays in a shoebox somewhere.
 

saneagle

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As far as I am aware there are 2 Kingmeter protocols. If it is KM5S then it would be worth a try with another display. I would have thought you have a selection of old displays in a shoebox somewhere.
I think I have a couple of old KM displays. Maybe a C500 and C600 or something like that. I had rats get in my shed and they pissed over everything, so I'm not sure whether they still work. That's my task for Monday, assuming I finish the 24v folder I'm converting to dual voltage 24v/36v, which has been an absolute nightmare - probably the most frustrating and time-consuming job I've ever done on an ebike.
 

saneagle

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Swap over to KT controller and display ?
It's not my bike now, and I'm not sure the guy wants to pay for anything like that. It'll be similar to the 20" folder I'm swapping over to KT, which is a nightmare. I don't really fancy going through all that again. 4 hours to get the BB off so that I can change the incompatible pedal sensor.