No it isn't - you are misleading anyone who might take you seriously by throwing in a red herring. 'Brexit' has never been about taxes, let alone taxes considered as a 'key question' in the whole fiasco.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Tom
Let them sample for themselves where Jackass's policies will take them?
And all we have to do is await the reaction.....
it is not a red herring. Self reliance for example could well be extrapolated to a smaller government, less taxes on workers. Small businesses' worries about regulations can be extrapolated to excessive EU bureaucracy. Self rule is translated to take back control. These are some of the legitimate concerns of millions of tory voters.
Remainers have to make their own case for more taxes, more regulation, a higher court than the courts of this land.
Ten years ago, the British taxpayers' money was misused to bail out a large commercial enterprise, Lloyd's Bank. Today, that group has decided to pay its shareholders and senior staff incredible dividends/bonuses while those taxpayers subject to PAYE have, for 10 years, been starved of meaningful pay rises, under the discredited need for austerity.
All in it together! I think not.
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Tom
All in it together! I think not.
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Tom
they were Gordon Brown's doing.
Our banks paid so much in taxes that GB ignored what they were up to. He allowed RBS takeover of Natwest then Amro for example. The derivative market (aka the state sponsored London casino) grew out of all proportions, house purchase lending went through the roof.
The tories' medecine is not to everybody's taste but it was medecine nevertheless.
We've made the case, but as ever it's pointless when the Brexiters are too ignorant and stupid to understand the consequences of ridding themselves of those taxes, regulations and rights protection of the European courts. And too ignorant to understand that these taxes are trifling amounts compared to what we are taxed for internally by our own government.
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Two comments ... That is the way to ask questions at an interview and parliamentary privilage is much much too important a principle to let it go or be subject to sanction. Without it an MP would be hamstrung from making assertions in parliament. Remember the laws are there to protect the weak from the strong, but unfortunately the wealthy can buy the best law. Parliamentary privalage, can act as a bulwark for democracy.
It is open to Mr Corbyn to demand that those statements be made by the minister outside the confines of the house, and or to sue newspapers who report them without evidence.
I disagree with your assertion 'Danidl' on the basis that parliamentary privilege has become a contrivance seen as an easy way to say anything one likes in the full knowledge that (a) the media will publish it as part of their propaganda project against socialism and (b) the abusers of that privilege know that nothing will happen to them.
It is long past its sell-by date and is nothing more than an anachronism serving no purpose in the 21st century other than as a vehicle by which MPs may lie inside parliament. When a law becomes more abused than respected, it is time to change it or remove it.
Tom
You are simply compounding your fundamental error by regurgitating the same claptrap about tax being the 'key question for 'Brexit'.'
Tax never was an issue with the electorate in the campaign about 'Brexit' although there were many others. For you to go further by stating that,
is just sheer nonsense. You seem to wish to erroneously mix internal British politics with the issue of the EU as you see fit, even to the extent of justifying your amazingly inaccurate description of the situation in regard to taxes.
Some of us remember the inequity of the various planks of government revenue generation long before the days of VAT, for example. Poll tax is probably the best-remembered example of an ill-conceived tax and was the source of much cohesion between various levels of society. It caused many millions to protest and forced the government of the day to rethink their plan. Had there been tax issues severe enough to engender that kind of public reaction at the time the matter of 'Brexit' caused the government to agree to a referendum, we would all have known about it.
The onus necessarily falls on those who campaigned for 'Brexit' to assuage any fears held by the population - not on 'Remainers'.
Tom
There is no "extra" bedroom tax in France... In fact housing tax is being totally phased out for low income earners.
and you are blocking your eyes and ears to people who voted against labour.
This government is dragging the British people towards international isolation and economic suicide so the words of Jeremy Corbyn should be borne in mind:
And............for those who have not seen the recent letter mentioned in the media, I have been given a copy of the original:
I hope that provides a better understanding for those who are now troubled by the direction the 'Brexit' project is headedand tying their laces.
Tom
And............for those who have not seen the recent letter mentioned in the media, I have been given a copy of the original:
I hope that provides a better understanding for those who are now troubled by the direction the 'Brexit' project is headed
Tom
You're wrong again 'Woosh' as my eyes and ears are still functioning very well.
It's rather sad that you appear to lack the testicular fortitude to own up when you get things entirely wrong, not an infrequent occurrence where you are concerned.
Tom
so do tell me, what makes you holier than those who post in the Sun and the Express?
Stupid question 'Woosh'! I'd guess that even you are holier than people who buy or read the content of such scurrilous rags.
Tom
Steady on, time for a smile.
Just heard the minister in charge of DEXEU, the Leave ministry, telling us of a letter he received.
It congratulated him on his appointment in charge of the department for exciting the EU.
Judging from some of the frustrated remarks from EU officials, perhaps not so wrong!
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