Haibike sDuro HardSeven SL 2015 Yamaha (7 Month 1600 Miles)

georgehenry

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Cheers Eagle, adding to this review now occasionally, is as much for me now, although I hope the odd person enjoys it. I like reading reviews of other bikes but often think that although initial thoughts are useful many are done too soon and you need to live with a bike a bit and put some miles on it to gain a real perspective on its good and sometimes bad points.
 
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10,000 Mile Update

10.000 miles feels like a milestone on my Haibike Yamaha commuting to work odyssey.
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Haibike sDuro HardSeven SL 2015 Yamaha 3 and a half Year update

As of my return trip from work last night I have covered 9954 miles with 3954 on the new motor. I return to work on Friday and will be comfortably over 10,000 miles by the 22nd of September when the bike will be three and a half years old. The previous motor was replaced under warranty at 6000 miles just after two years use.

There was nothing wrong with the functionality of that motor but the main bearing had developed play and a replacement motor seemed to be an easier course of action for the manufacturer than replacing the bearing that had worn. I cannot say I was unhappy to get a brand new motor free of charge.

When inevitably the bearing on my replacement motor develops play in the main bearing it will be interesting to see what options my dealer will be able to offer me. I know that they replace worn out bearings on Bosch motors. Hopefully by then they will be able to change the bearing for me or provide me with the correct bearing I can change myself. Perhaps there might be some kind of motor exchange deal.

Maybe they will only be able to offer a replacement new motor and I will have to find out myself how to change the bearing or bite the bullet on a new motor dependent on cost.
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Chain, Chainring, Cassette, wear and tear

Top gear (12 tooth sprocket) started to jump under load a couple of times on the way home last night 10/09/2018 so I will be putting a new cassette and chain on before my next ride to work on Friday 14th September. I will not change the front Garbaruk 42 tooth narrow wide chain ring as it is still has plenty of life left.

I use KMC chains and cheap Shimano 9 speed cassettes.

This cassette, chain, and chain ring came into service on the 27th of February 2018 and together have completed 1462 miles in just under six months.

The narrow wide chain ring was my first experience of one and I have found it to be absolutely superb and would highly recommend them and this one in particular. No dropped chain since I put it on and beautifully engineered to be light and strong.

Over half the miles I do are off road in a sandy area which increases the wear rate of the chain, chain ring and rear cassette. With the best will in the world regular commuting means that the transmission does not get cleaned as often as it should as you just run out of time and energy to wash the transmission off before having to head off to work. Also it is my trip to work that is off road and gets everything dirty so that the transmission is dirty before my 10 mile road trip home.

Other bits and bobs that needed replacing

My rear rack support leg fastening on one side broke and I salvaged a rack I had fitted to a Marin Bobcat trail hard tail mountain bike that has been sitting unused in my garage. The old rack had lasted just shy of two years which I think was OK considering the battering it got off road loaded with two Ortleib panniers. The new one looks much better with the support legs closer fitting to the frame and therefore held more securely. The rack has already had a hard life fitted to my Marin, but I hope to get a lot more use out of it now it is fitted to the Haibike.

Tyres

My tyres have now covered 4400 miles since I put them on, on 5th January 2017. They are Specialized Crossroads Armadillo 650B 27.6” Wired Clincher Tyres in 1.9” width. They are very tough and look like they can last still longer. More wear apparent on the rear than the front as you would expect. Fantastic protection and no punctures.

When the rear needs replacing I will move the front tyre to the rear and put a new tyre on the front.

They are a classic compromise and more road orientated than I would like but with the miles I do on the road mountain bike tyres would wear out in no time and after getting used to them I have learnt that they are more effective than I had first thought they would be off road.
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Battery

As documented my battery and charger connectors broke in April and I was shocked to find that my otherwise excellent dealer who I bought the bike from had no facility to get them fixed and that indeed no dealer has and all my dealer could do was offer to sell me a new battery and charger,

Fortunately with the help of a handy mate we were able to replace the connectors with generic ones bought off Ebay for less than a tenner. In order to do the job properly we did have to open the battery case but it all worked as before after we had put it back together.

The battery has powered the bike for 1022 miles since the connectors needed mending. The new cheap Ebay connectors are a bit chunky and remind me of chock block connectors but are easier to use than the original ones and have been completely reliable so far. Perhaps just as important is that I now know that they can be relatively easily changed if the need arises.

The battery which is the original one and now itself three and a half years old continues to work really well with still little obvious sign of a loss in capacity. On my 14 mile mostly off road ride to work on Monday it used 28% of its 400Wh capacity and 36% on the 10 mile road trip home. I use more battery going home as I use the motor more to travel faster and complete the journey in around 30 minutes to aim to achieve an average speed of around 20mph.

Perhaps in the forthcoming cold of winter I will begin to see some sign of the capacity reducing. Time and cold weather will reveal all.

The fact that the battery can be removed so easily and that I always do remove it and keep it in the house where it is warmer and dryer than a cold garage may be a factor in keeping it in good condition. After my ride home my battery is about 65% fully charged and is left like this until as near to the next time I intend to use the bike as possible before being charged up to full.

If I am on holiday from work the battery is left until I next go back to work and this gap can be up to three weeks.

Brakes

The Tektro brakes just require brake pads as and when and continue to work really well with no fuss or other more major adjustment.

Lights

My Sigma Buster 200 front light with the silicon handlebar attachment to allow it to be completely taken off the bike easily and used on another or as a torch is one and a half years old and still working well. I use it on its middle brightest setting of the three it has and you can connect it to a computer to charge or a plug in mains charger. Obviously you can spend a fortune on lights but for my B road commuting needs this light has been very good. Bright enough for me, weighs very little and very easy to attach and detach and held securely when attached. The beam, penetration and spread is all good. I have a second cheap battery light attached to my handlebars as a backup just in case

My first rear light was a Moon Comet which was good but failed inside my first year of ownership and Martin at the e-bikeshop where I bought my bike and the light replaced the Moon Comet with the updated Moon Comet MKII free of charge. Great customer service.

The updated Comet MKII is very bright and gets you noticed which is what you want. It is over two and a half years old and can also be attached and detached from the seat post very easily. I use it on its brightest flashing setting and refer to it as my rear gunner as it really gets me noticed by vehicles approaching me from behind day or night and I would definitely recommend it and buy another similar model from moon when I need to replace it. I also have a tiny but bright battery light also attached to the seat post as a back up were the moon to fail
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Story to be continued

So after 3 and a half years now and 10,000 miles I am still very impressed with this bike.

I continue to find the Haibike frame and Japanese motor a great quality combination. I bought a crank drive bike to enable me to ride mostly off road to work using in places quite demanding single track routes while carrying panniers on a rear rack and then having the ability to morph into a fast road bike to get me 10 miles home quickly. I still find riding this bike is amazing fun and also get the benefit of plenty of exercise in the process.

What the future holds

I will be 57 soon and plan to retire when I am 60. Will this bike last till then? That would be pushing the mileage up towards 20,000 miles based on my usage so far. How much longer will this original battery last? Will the main bearing in this second warranty replacement motor develop play like the first motor or will it go further or not as far? Will there be an option to have the bearing replaced? Will I just want a different bike at some point? Will my knees hold out? They certainly ache and creak more than they used to. Time will reveal all but I am really enjoying riding this bike to work and back and the freedom from driving a car.
 

georgehenry

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11,000 Miles, (small statistics update)

I passed 11,000 miles on the 1st of May 2019

Cassette and chain have now completed 566 miles since 9th of January 2019.

The Chain ring has now completed 2572 miles since February 2018.

Tyres: They have now covered 5436 miles since 5th of January 2017. Shock, horror, I actually had a front tyre puncture when a particularly nasty thorn made it through. These are amazingly hard wearing tyres.

Battery: The original battery is going strong and has now completed 2058 miles since I was forced to replace the battery/charger connectors.

Brakes: Work great with nothing to report.

Lights: Sigma Buster 200 front light still working fine. Rear Moon Comet MKII might need to be kept an eye on as it heads into its fourth year of service. The back up front Magicshine MJ-890 160 lumen rechargeable light that I got for £9.99 continues to impress.

Rear Wheel: The only failure of note has been my rear wheel. When I washed the bike around the 5th of April 2019 and inspected the rear wheel I found some damage to the Mavic rim. This wheel had managed over 10,000 miles and was my second rear wheel after I destroyed the first one when a tree branch got jammed in it. I decided to get a ready built replacement wheel and have the cassette swapped over.
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I still love this bike as I ride on into my 5th year of ownership. It will do a few less miles this year as it shares commuting duties with another bike that gets used instead of the sDuro when my shifts dictate riding on the road there and back.
 
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georgehenry

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11,,544 Miles update

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Cassette and chain
have now completed 1110 miles since 9th of January 2019.

Though on my last ride home my chain broke with about 5 miles of my commute to go.

Last time a chain broke on my commute I was going to work in the dark up a steep hill and stopped straight away and then found my chain easily just behind me on the road.

I was also on a rear hub electric bike with a throttle and managed to complete my journey using the throttle.

This time it happened on my crank drive on the flat and I coasted to a halt without fully realizing what had happened over about 40 meters. Obviously a crank drive bike has no back up throttle option of my old rear hub bike.

There had been a lot of rain that night and lots of standing water/puddles at the side of the road. I walked back expecting to find my chain but began to believe it was in one of the puddles completely obscured.

I do carry a connecting link but you need to have a chain to link!

I remembered a friend who lived in the village and pushed my bike to their house. I just wanted to leave my bike somewhere secure and get a taxi home but they would hear nothing of that and gave me a lift home and I then drove back in my estate car and got my bike.

Anyway the following morning I drove back to the village, parked the car and looked again for my chain. There it was lying across the pavement probably really close to where I had eventually pulled up.

Luckily when it came off it did no damage!

The chain is back on but I think we are close to when I will need to replace the chain and rear cassette and maybe consider also a new front chain ring as it has now covered 3,116 miles since February 2019.

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Tyres: They have now covered 5,980 miles since 5th of January 2017. Although these are amazingly hard wearing I might be getting close to moving the front tyre to the rear and buying a new one for the front but will keep going for now.

Battery: The original battery is going strong and has now completed 2,602 miles since I was forced to replace the battery/charger connectors. It will be 5 years old in March 2020. I am within two years of my retirement target age of 60 in October 2021, and am starting to believe it could last until then.

Brakes: Work great with nothing to report except when the chain was put back on the pads were checked and close to nothing left, oops, now has new pads front and rear.

Lights: Sigma Buster 200 front light still working fine but showing signs that it may not last too much longer. I bought a back up front light, a Magicshine MJ-890 160 lumen rechargeable light that I got for £9.99 and have on my handlebars alongside the Sigma in case it were to fail .

I replaced the Rear Moon Comet MKII with a a Moon Comet X Rear Light that I saw on a cheap offer for £12.96. I still use the Moon Comet MkII on my rear hub bike to augment the built in rear light it has and it continues to flash brightly for the 10 mile road journey commute I do on it.

Front Mudguard: The front fixing for my after market Topeak defender 650b/29 front mudguards broke at the front allowing the front mudguard to droop rather sadly but still function and I had bodged a repair but made a mental note to get another. They had been on since I bought the bike in March 2015, so not bad going.

Fate then played a hand, riding to work on a familiar track I came across the same front and rear mudguard set complete with attachment lying by the side of the track. Now I would have noticed if all my front mudguards had dropped off my bike but not wishing to look a gift horse in the mouth I now have the replacement mudguard I was going to buy and two spar mudguards as it was only the fixing that had broken on mine.

If I had come across anyone looking for their mudguard on my ride I would of course have given them back.

The miles I will cover this year will be quite a lot less than normal as I have not been required to so regularly be at my normal place of work. Though normal commuting duties to that place of work are about to resume soon.

I also use the £100 second hand rear hub Oxygen Emate City bike I bought when I know that I will be riding on the road to work and back in both directions. The rear hub bike is a better more relaxing road commuting machine. This £100 Oxygen has its own amusing little story!

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/the-tale-of-a-£100-second-hand-electric-bike.33079/#post-497978

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However whenever I can ride cross country to work I use the crank Drive Haibike to enjoy my beautiful 12 to 14 mile almost completely off road route and the more rigorous bout of exercise it entails self induced I may add by riding in eco and off.

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Resuming my commute to work will have some new challenges however as the room I could leave my bike in is no longer available, though I can still charge my battery in it. I have another room I can leave my bike but not as good, private or as secure as the first.

The transition from arriving at work to being ready to work will take a bit longer and bit more planning and may impact on whether my ride to work can be done as regularly as before which is a shame. We will see. I have derived a great deal of pleasure particularly from my off road ride to work so it will not be from a want of trying as they say.

There is also talk of moving the starting point of my job to a secure less accessible site about a mile and a quarter further away. As a shift worker starting either early in the morning or finishing late at night any small increments of time added to my cycling journey tip the see saw of feasible regular bike commuting away from cycling and towards the car.

As I get older I am also noticing that my joints ache more and and for longer after the exercise and I recover slower. Though I still get a real benefit from the exercise.

I am hoping that when I resume regular cycle commuting that I recover the strength and resilient ability to recover quickly that I enjoyed before my 8 months of very irregular cycle commuting.

The company I work for does nothing to encourage those of us that ride to work despite each one of us that does not using our cars and freeing up a space in a very oversubscribed car park, not to say the green credentials etc. Shame really.
 
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georgehenry

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The edit facility closed before I noticed an error, the chain ring has done 3116 miles since it was put on in February 2018 not 2019 as stated.
 
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georgehenry

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Been a while since I rode four consecutive return trips to work (Monday to Thursday, 9th to 12th of March) on the Haibike.

I was rained on and cold on nearly every day at sometime or other. Thursday was mostly sunny and fine and then it got colder and darker tantalizingly close to work and there was a brief but vicious period of hail and rain necessitating breaking out the water proofs, that then stopped as suddenly as it had started. On one trip home on the road it was a deluge of water from start to finish.

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Still unwashed at the end, too exhausted to do it!

Even using my Winter route on the cross country route to work the ground in places was saturated making progress difficult. One field I cross using a bridal path and with the motor off usually, required some judicious segments of eco to keep me moving over sections of water saturated ground. And of course there was slippery slimy mud that could not be avoided.

So the bike got filthy. There was no time to wash the bike between trips and the only maintenance was to add oil to the chain on arrival at work after my wet and muddy cross country ride in. I was not sure I would physically hold out for the week and was very tired on day two but rallied for the last two days and could feel my stamina returning.

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Fresh chain oil on a muddy chain, not considered the best approach!

How much wear I have added to my chain and rear cassette I do not want to think about. I covered 54 miles off road in four days. The chain and rear cassette have now managed 1290 miles. The bike performed faultlessly.

One change from normal that was forced on me by the front wheel bearings suddenly needing replacing was that I swapped the front wheel over from another non electric 650b mountain bike I own that is shod with Continental Cross King 2.2 Protection tyres. These proved a bit of a revelation combined with the less grippy but very hard wearing (6196 miles so far) Specialized Crossroads Armadillo 650B 27.6” Wired Clincher rear Tyre in 1.9” width.

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Grippy wider front paired with narrower less grippy rear, surprisingly effective in challenging conditions.

Having a proper grippy mountain bike tyre on the front gave me oodles more grip in faster slippery muddy corners and everywhere else giving a real uplift in off road handling without the less off road orientated rear tyre compromising too much the better performance delivered at the front. This might be my perfect off road commuter bike combination, and it also worked well on the road.

Obviously if I had Continental tyres at both ends it would be even better but I am sure I would wear out a rear mountain bike tyre too quickly with the road work I need to do. Over these four days 40 miles was on the road and would quickly square off a mountain bike tyre at the rear, however on the front it should last a lot longer, and long enough to make the increase in off road performance worth it.

Now that I have a new front Topeak defender 650b/29 front mudguard, a like for like replacement for my previous front mudguard, the front portion is now positioned where it should be, much higher than the previous bodged broken one that was much closer to the tyre, and an ironic consequence of this is that although it keeps all flicked up mud of me, rain water spray is not so well blocked as before, vive la bodge.

The nearly five year old battery resumed service just as it always has, using the same amount of its capacity on the 14 mile cross country route, around 30% of its 400Wh capacity and around 35% on the faster 10 mile road ride home using some higher middle assistance levels to climb steeper hills quicker and get me the 10 miles home in around 30 minutes.

I covered 94 miles in total and the bike has now managed 11,760. I am close to the end of my 5th year commuting and this year have done quite a lot less miles as I have not been required to go to my normal place of work. I will still have done about a thousand miles by the end of the year.

Also I now only use the Haibike when I can travel cross country to work. It is off road where a crank drive comes into its own and shows it marvelous capability. Just banging too and fro on the road wears out the drive train and I now use an old rear hub cadence sensor 2011 electric bike with an unrestricted throttle that I bought for £100 second hand instead and is a much better bike to ride on the road.

Whether all this will come to a premature end I do not know. I now have to leave my bike in a locker room, and other bikes are also left there and I can see that if a complaint is made we might be left with no where safe to leave them and that might be that.

I am so close to retiring in 18 months time, and have enjoyed so much riding to work, that it would be a real shame if it got kyboshed prematurely.
 
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georgehenry

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11,818 Mile 5 Year Update

Haibike sDuro HardSeven SL 2015 Yamaha 5 Year update

All the pictures included here were taken on my last cross country commuting rides to work on Sunday and Monday the 22nd and 23rd of March 2020 and ordered from the start of my off road ride to the end.

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Field boundary track after Eashing Farm Bridge that takes me over the A3

I was actually surprised I had done over a thousand miles this year (1044 miles) as for quite a portion of this year I have not been doing my normal cycle commute to work and back.

I also now use two electric bikes that share my home to work and back mileage so that the Haibike only gets used when I can ride cross country to work.

However it is these cross country rides that are the most fun.

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View from track towards Shackleford

Cassette and chain have now completed 1348 miles as of my return trip from work on Monday the 23rd of March 2020 since coming into service on the 9th of January 2019.

I suffered a broken chain one evening coming back home from work that meant getting a lift home from a friend, but I found the chain the next day and it is working well after being re fitted.

The chain ring has completed 3,390 miles since it was replaced in February 2018. I did buy another one so I would have it ready when I needed to replace the first one but due to quality and longevity of this item it is gathering dust on my garage shelf.

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Cutmill Pond

Tyres: The rear tyre has now covered a huge 6,254 miles since 5th of January 2017. A fantastic extremely hard wearing highly puncture resistant tyre. (No punctures in the rear tyre so far), It is a Specialized Crossroads Armadillo 650B 27.6” Wired Clincher Tyres in 1.9” width. Shrugs of road miles and works better than it should off road.

Interestingly the narrow width allows it to cut down through slippery mud and find grip where the tread pattern might make you think it would struggle. I think that sometimes the great big wide tyres that you can get now can be less effective in mud than a narrower one that cuts through the top layers to find grip.

However to contradict this statement, when the Haibike is retired from commuting duties and I get the time and opportunity to use it as a leisure vehicle I would be tempted to go tubeless with tough down hill more rigid side walled tyres front and rear and run them at very low pressure.

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Forrest track Lower Puttenham Common

Very recently I fitted the front wheel from another mountain bike I own to the Haibike after the wheel bearings on the original wheel suddenly let go. The replacement wheel was fitted with Continental Cross King 2.2 Protection tyres.

These proved a bit of a revelation as having a proper mountain bike tyre on the front gave me a lot more grip and a real uplift in off road handling without the less off road orientated rear tyre compromising too much the better performance delivered at the front. The greater air volume of this tyre also added some give and comfort to the front end off road.

I am really enjoying riding with this combination and this might be my perfect off road commuter bike combination, and it also worked well on the road.

Obviously if I had Continental tyres at both ends it would be even better off road but I am sure I would wear out a rear mountain bike tyre too quickly with the road work I need to do.

Over a normal four day home to work commute I travel around 96 to 104 miles, but as I ride home on the road at least 40 of these miles are on the road and probably a bit more as I have to ride across town and out the other side to access my off road route and these road miles would quickly square off a mountain bike tyre at the rear, however on the front it should last a lot longer, and long enough to make the increase in off road performance worth it.

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Track across Broomfields with brown cows in the distance

Battery: The original 400Wh Yamaha battery is still performing well as it enters its sixth year of service. It has now powered the bike for 2,876 miles and almost two years since I was forced to replace the battery/charger connectors myself in April of 2018.

As it continues to perform so well it shows how wasteful it would have been to have thrown it and the charger away when the original connectors broke.

I still find it quite disturbing that if you are unlucky and damage the connectors on your Yamaha battery and/or charger there is no support available to get them fixed. You either have to fix them yourself, like I did, which involved overcoming the defeat bolts and opening up the battery case or finding a third party business that could do it for you, perhaps like Jimmy at insat.

I am not planning to continue my career now much beyond April 2021, so there is every reason to believe now that this battery can last until I retire from work. I do not think I was expecting that when I bought the bike in March 2015.

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Close up view of the cows as I exit the track across Broomfields

Brakes: Work great with nothing to report except that when the chain was put back on after it broke the pads were checked and close to nothing left, oops, and new pads were needed at both the front and rear.

I might need to change the oil and bleed the rear brake at sometime in the near future as the lever comes back towards the handlebar a bit more than it used to or would be considered ideal. It works fine though.

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Beautiful Crooksbury Common

Lights: After thinking the front Sigma Buster 200 front light (bought 8th of March 2017) might be coming to the end of its life it continues to soldier on still working fine . I bought a back up front light, a Magicshine MJ-890 160 lumen rechargeable light that I got for £9.99 on the 17th of December 2018, and have on my handlebars alongside the Sigma in case it were to fail but has not been needed.

I replaced the Rear Moon Comet MKII with a a Moon Comet X Rear Light that I saw on a cheap offer for £12.96 and bought on the 12th of July 2019. This light has a rear post clip attachment that the light fits into, however the angle of light does not appear to be able to be adjusted in the vertical plane up and down although it is very bright and cannot be too much at the wrong angle if at all as it gets me noticed day or night by approaching cars from the rear. It is easy to remove the light at the end of your journey to slip in a pocket and take inside to charge.

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More spectacular views from my traverse across Crooksbury Common

Front Mudguard: The front fixing for my after market Topeak defender 650b/29 front mudguards broke some time ago allowing the front mudguard to droop rather sadly but still function and I had bodged a repair but made a mental note to get another. They had been on since I bought the bike in March 2015, so not bad going.

Fate then played a hand this year, riding to work on a familiar track I came across the exactly same front mudguard set complete with attachment lying by the side of the track.

Now I would have noticed if all my front mudguards had dropped off my bike but not wishing to look a gift horse in the mouth I now have the replacement mudguard I was going to buy and two spar mudguards as it was only the fixing that had broken on mine.

If I had come across anyone looking for their mudguard on my ride I would of course have given them back.

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Another lovely spot, High Mill Pond on The River Wey

Rear Wheel: One failure of note has been my rear wheel. When I washed the bike around the 5th of April 2019 and inspected the rear wheel I found some damage to the Mavic rim. This wheel had managed over 10,000 miles and was my second rear wheel after I destroyed the one that came with the bike when a tree branch got jammed in it. I decided to get a ready built replacement wheel and have the cassette swapped over.

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Nearly there and a tree down to overcome on The North Downs Way near Farnham Railway Station.

Resuming my commute
I have now resumed my commute to work and have at the moment been able to cope with having to leave my bike in a communal locker room and taking my battery to another room where it can be charged while I work. I also need to have a wash and get changed. It does add time to the transition period between arriving at work and being ready to work but not so much as to put me off at the moment although you do need to be motivated and organised.

I can see that those of us who leave bikes in the locker room might be told to stop and although there are public areas where bikes can be left and locked, bikes are known to be at high risk of theft in those locations, and as a shift worker my bike would be there when bike theft or damage would be most likely.

There is also a chance of being provided with a staff secure bike security box, which sounds ideal but the boxes have been fitted in a awkwardly inaccessible location further away from where I need to be than ideal and open to the elements while you remove your panniers and battery before putting your bike in the box and making your way to where you can plug your battery in and get changed.

Commuting to work and back by bike is quite challenging to do in ideal circumstances and even for someone keen to do it like me It only needs to become that bit too much more awkward to make the effort required in doing it that bit too much to make on the regular basis as I do at the moment.

I was worried that after not regularly cycling to work and back for some months I might struggle to resume it, but have actually found that I have enjoyed it just as much as before and that my fitness and stamina have quickly improved to accommodate it again. In fact I have felt much better for doing it.

I have always loved exercise and at various points in my life have been very fit but think that as I get very close to 60 years old making the effort to exercise is more important for my health now to retain my strength and mobility than it was when I was younger.

I love the job I do, completely changing career pathways to do it when I was made redundant in the 2008 credit crunch, but I also love being able to cycle to work to do it, and have been doing it so long now that I would really miss not be able to.

One thing that will not stop me is the worrying Coronavirus pandemic. My new job (I always think of it as my new job, even though I have now been doing it for over 10 years) is classified as a key worker role so my beautiful cross country ride to work is now officially sanctioned by the government!
 
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12,000 Miles

I nudged over 12.000 when I got home from work on Saturday the 9th of May reaching 12,002.

I had been rostered to work for four days from Friday the 8th of May through to Monday the 11th. On one of those days I stayed at home on call but was not required to work. These were my first days back at work since the 17th of April.

So in the end I rode to work and back three times using my longer 14 mile summer cross country route to work and then back home 10 miles on the road. Although I rode the same off road route, which I really love, my work start times varied on each day from 11:00am on Friday, then 20:00 on Saturday and finally 15:52 on Monday. So 72 miles in total and 12.026 total for the bike now.

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Ride to work on Friday 8th May 2020
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Ride to work Saturday 9th of May 2020
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Final ride to work on Monday the 11th of May 2020

So the continuing statistics are

Chain and rear cassette
have now completed 1532 miles
The chain and cassette must be pretty worn out now but I will only change them when the chain starts to jump.

Chain ring has now reached 3,574 miles
I think it may be time to put a new one on when I next change the chain and rear cassette.

Rear Tyre has now reached 6,438 miles
I think I should now be changing this as it is getting pretty worn, however there are no issues with the integrity of the tyre and it still rides fine.

Front Tyre
I recently fitted the front wheel from another mountain bike I own to the Haibike after the wheel bearings on the original wheel suddenly let go. The replacement wheel was fitted with Continental Cross King 2.2 Protection tyres. This worked so well off road that I have simply not swapped it back and I have added 184 miles to the Continental tyre.

Battery still the original one and working well in its 6th year

Motor my second motor replaced under warranty is up to 5,850 miles.

I return to work on Friday the 15th for an unusual 6 days of work in a row followed by a more acceptable 6 days off. They are early starts so my £100 second hand Oxygen Emate City circa 2011 vintage will be front and centre for a possible 120 miles of commuting on the road. What could possible go wrong!
 
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georgehenry

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Worn out consumables

Last week I was looking forward to three consecutive off road rides to work on my Haibike, returning home on the road. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday the 26th, 27th and 28th of May 2020.

Sadly it only managed one and then only just! To be fair to the bike I do tend to push components right to the end of their useful life and in this case perhaps a bit beyond!

The narrow wide chain ring that I have been very impressed with finally decided enough was enough. I should have kept a closer eye on it. I knew it was getting quite worn. It died a noble death by getting me back home, just, after a paltry 3,600 mile lifespan. You just can't get quality components these days!

The warning signs were there as it had uncharacteristically dropped the chain a couple of times on the way to work and then was a bugger to get the chain to stay on going home on the road.

So that was that and the following two days commuting duties were carried out by my £100 second hand rear hub 2011 Oxygen Emate City.

As I write this "The Haibike" is restored to good health with a new chain ring as well as a new chain and cassette to boot. Extravagance I hear you cry. It even has a new gear cable and two new brake pads. I even went so far as to remove the quite worn but still serviceable to my eye, rear tyre, (only 6,500 miles, I might keep it just in case) and replaced it with the one from the front (also over 6,000 miles covered) but still looking in surprisingly good shape having led an easy life, on the front.

I have to say it feels a whole lot better after a quick test ride up the road.

The £100 second hand bike will be in use potentially for 5 return trips and 120 miles starting on Wednesday morning, and The Haibike will not be back in action until Thursday the 11th of June.
 
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Izzyekerslike

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Where did you source the narrow wide chainwheel, I have been trying to find a 44t for my sons Haibike but had no joy.

Ed
 

Debbie B

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We have two Haibike Sduro Hardsevens, whilst away on holiday one stopped working with the battery flashing E and F and would not switch on. Thinking this was a battery fault I swapped that battery for the other and that developed the same fault. I put one battery on charge to see if this would reset the problem, it didn't.

I rang the dealer about the problem and tried to reset the batteries with button presses as directed, no effect. On return to the UK I delivered the bikes and batteries to the dealer for assessment and hopefully warranty repair.

I've just heard that because the bikes are a few months outside the warranty Raleigh will not repair them for free. I was told the motors of the second bike has been damaged by putting a faulty battery onto that bike and switching it on so the cost I have been quoted for repair of both bikes for two motors and two batteries is .. £2280!

The bikes have not been hard used nor abused, mine has covered about 2500miles my partners (the original faulty one) only about 500miles. Both are stored inside the house when not in use.

This fault is nothing that we have done surely a motor should last longer than that and how on earth can a motor then take out the other motor via a faulty battery? This doesn't sound right to me.

Has anyone had a similar fault of batteries flashing E and F? Can the battery be repaired i.e. an internal fuse be replaced? Does anyone know of a place that could refurb them? Do I have any consumer rights under "Fit for purpose"?

I would be grateful for any help and advice as to what to do next. £2280 is more than I paid for one bike originally.

Thanks
Did you ever get a more satisfying response? I have the same problem with my sduro 9...being in South Africa there is no support on a Haibike. It is definitely the PC board attached to the battery pack. Perhaps someone has a diagram?
 

georgehenry

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13,000 Miles

Now that The Haibike shares commuting duties with my £100 second hand 2011 Oxygen, it takes a bit longer to reach these mileage Waypoints.

So this is just a quick update, before I try to do a bit more comprehensive one when the bike is 6 years old.
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I have just ridden to five late duties using my Haibike to travel cross country 14 miles to work and then 10 miles home covering 120 miles, and I breached the 13,000 mile barrier when I got home on Sunday and finished last night with 13,076 miles covered.

My warranty replaced motor, changed when the bike was two years old is now nearly 4 years old and has covered just over 7,000 miles.

The original battery is also working really well.

These rides have been interesting as my first ride in on Saturday the 13th of February was when the ground was frozen solid. Despite low temperatures the amount of battery I used on the way to work was as low as in the summer as the solid ground removed a lot of drag and allowed me to fly along with less effort.

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In contrast on the way home it was cold and windy and I used more higher assist than normal to maintain my speed and my battery consumption hit a high of 52% used.

That first ride to work was really treacherous and I nearly came a cropper on more than one occasion before I took more care of the frozen ridges of mud!

Also on one small connecting country lane I came across a domed section of the road where water had frozen solid over the full width for about 40 meters. I went across very carefully without touching the brakes, knowing that I could be dumped on the deck at any moment.

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Then the next day as things started to warm up there was in places a thin layer of cold slippery thawing mud on top of frozen ground underneath. Very slippery.

On one evening it absolutely cained it down for the whole ride home.

And each day it got muddier and muddier as the temperatures increased and the ground thawed out.

The last ride yesterday was in thick sticky mud and waterlogged ground in many sections.

I was very glad of the 2.35 mud tyre that I am running tubeless on the back, put on in October 2019, despite the extra drag it gives on the road going home and the fact that it looks like it will wear out quite fast.

I may take it off in the Spring and keep it for next Winter or just wear it out and replace. We will see. Having not run a tubeless set up before I will need to remember to put some more sealant in.

I had thought I might retire this April, but with a secure well paid job and Covid meaning I could not travel or indeed do that much if I stopped working I will wait until I have been jabbed and then review.

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Just before it gets washed, the drive train de-greased, and the chain checked for wear before oiling.
 
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georgehenry

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I bought the Haibike in March 2015 and look at how many miles I have ridden each year on the anniversary of its purchase.

This year I have only ridden the Haibke to work when I can ride on my off road route into work in daylight, and these are generally but not always my late turn jobs.

I bought in 2018 a remarkably cheap (£100) Oxygen rear hub road bike of 2011 vintage that I now ride to all my early shift jobs or any job that I cannot enjoy the off road route in daylight on my Haibike.

The return mileage to work and back on the road is 20 miles using The Oxygen, and usually 24 miles, 14 off road and 10 back on the road, on The Haibike.

This for me is the best of both worlds. The Oxygen is a great and relaxing road bike, using a simple cadence sensor geared rear hub motor that is gentle on the drive train. The Haibike is a superb off road machine that can tackle tough and technical off road tracks. Being a torque sensor bike means it is relatively hard wearing on the drive train, but because I only use it when I can ride to work off road, the higher more vulnerable gears only come into play on the 10 mile road ride home. It still hammers the drive train but I am quite happy to put up with this for its superb ability off road. Used roughly half as much as it was before it shared commuting duties with The Oxygen means there are longer time gaps between drive train replacements, and both bikes get used in the environments where they are best suited.

Although the Oxygen that I bought does have a computer display that also has an odometer I have not kept an annual note of how far I have ridden it in the same way as The Haibike.

Anyway I have had a look at how far I have ridden The Haibike since my last anniversary in March 2020 and it is 1,258 miles, with a month to go before the year end.

I had a look at the thread where I am recording my owner experience of my £100 Oxygen and found a note of the odometer reading from that bike back on the 20th of May 2020 of 1,350, and just popped to the garage to see what it is today, 2,388, so have ridden The Oxygen 1,038 miles since 20/05/20.

So the total recorded mileage that I have ridden both bikes, The Haibike since 25/03/20, and The Oxygen 20/05/20, is 2,296 miles.

My shifts are very roughly 50/50 split between early shifts and late shifts. When I accounted for the longer journey that I make on The Haibike I found that I have ridden each bike to work and back 52 times each.
 

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